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02-20-2018 , 04:58 PM
it's not necessary for the pan to be scorching hot and you probably don't want it to be that case with a piece of meat that's so thin.
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02-20-2018 , 05:03 PM
on the other hand, EVOO isn't a great fat for searing because it has a low smoke point. you'll do better with canola, grapeseed, or soybean oil.
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02-20-2018 , 05:07 PM
so many tips! tomorrow's steak is gonna be 10x better!

does anyone use butter alone for searing?
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02-20-2018 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
so many tips! tomorrow's steak is gonna be 10x better!

does anyone use butter alone for searing?


Butter is quite delicious but don’t heat your pan hotter than med-hi (6/10) or else the butter will quickly blacken. You want brown, not black butter for searing.

The best technique is to start w/hot oil and finish in butter.
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02-20-2018 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
so many tips! tomorrow's steak is gonna be 10x better!

does anyone use butter alone for searing?
no. like extra-virgin olive oil, it has a low smoke point and will turn rancid if you put it in a very hot pan.




invest in a meat thermometer if you don't have one. oven reverse sear with a thermometer is the most idiot-proof way to make a great steak.
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02-20-2018 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by samuri8
We’re probably similar in regards to patronizing the closest grocery store, but if you want the real deal try Kincaid’s butcher shop at 56th and Illinois. The owners/operators are really nice people. Fresh market at 50th and college is really good also, as is fresh thyme at broad ripple and college (or 82nd and dean).
Thanks for the tip. I live on the south side, so their location isn't particularly convenient, but I'm happy to give them a shot sometime.
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02-20-2018 , 05:54 PM
Here’s a couple of pics from yelp to entice you.



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02-20-2018 , 07:52 PM
picked up a couple of prime strips on sale yesterday



anxious to see the inside
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02-20-2018 , 07:57 PM
Great looking crust Econ. Team Pan?
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02-20-2018 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigdaddydvo
Butter is quite delicious but don’t heat your pan hotter than med-hi (6/10) or else the butter will quickly blacken. You want brown, not black butter for searing.

The best technique is to start w/hot oil and finish in butter.
In the same pan? Can you post step by step for this, like do you decrease temp in between? I'm in a new place now which actually has a functioning exhaust fan, so I can cook in a smoking pan now without setting off an alarm. Making searing a lot easier.
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02-20-2018 , 08:33 PM
team pan all the way

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02-20-2018 , 08:47 PM
econ thumb on
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02-20-2018 , 08:49 PM
Yeah that’s basically perfect Econ
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02-20-2018 , 09:33 PM
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How is this supposed to work? Will salt over time evaporate and go into the meat? Is it a normal technique for aging? I don’t have any idea about aging.


Someone who knows more than me step in but I believe the idea is to remove moisture which is your culprit.
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02-20-2018 , 09:38 PM
Augie, re seasoning
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The steaks that were salted immediately before cooking and those that were salted and rested for at least 40 minutes turned out far better than those that were cooked at any point in between. If you've got the time, salt your meat for at least 40 minutes and up to overnight before cooking. If you haven't got 40 minutes, it's better to season immediately before cooking. Cooking the steak anywhere between three and 40 minutes after salting is the worst way to do it.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2011/03/t...ct-steaks.html
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02-20-2018 , 11:47 PM
My god Econ- amazong


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02-21-2018 , 12:58 AM
Econ! You've been crushing it.

I need to steak soon.
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02-21-2018 , 01:48 AM
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team pan all the way

JFC.
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02-21-2018 , 01:55 AM
It's hard to believe that's pan only honestly, freezer might just be the secret.
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02-21-2018 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Thanks for the tip. I live on the south side, so their location isn't particularly convenient, but I'm happy to give them a shot sometime.


Goose the Market also has a great selection of beef although it is a little pricey. There’s a new butcher opening up in Fountain Square (Turchettis) that will hopefully have some good meat.


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02-21-2018 , 02:59 PM
there's been some speculation about my method. it was actually a type of hybrid Ducasse.

i set the burner just slightly above medium, and stood the steaks on the fatty edge for 1.5 minutes to let the fat render. then i cooked both steaks at the same time on medium for 10 minutes, flipping once a minute. by that time they had already started to build up a good crust. here's a picture of them resting before the sear.



i then cranked the heat up all the way, added vegetable oil. i let it smoke for a little longer than normal before putting the steaks back in, so pan was hotter. after adding the steaks, the pan flared up briefly, but i was able to get it under control. i seared for two minutes per side, and then seared each edge for about 30 seconds.
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02-21-2018 , 03:07 PM
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i let it smoke for a little longer than normal before putting the steaks back in, so pan was hotter.
is letting your oil smoke for the sear the standard around here? i always felt like smoke from a high smoke point oil was a sign that you should turn the heat down a bit. but i almost burned a kitchen down once so i'm a little more cautious now...
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02-21-2018 , 03:21 PM
econ: lol, full circle. This thread went "Serious eats reverse sear (pan or oven)" -> "Ducasse" -> "hybrid Ducasse" as the method of choice in its early days, and we've recently seen a similar progression. I think it's just a function of people getting more comfortable with adjusting pan temps and cooking times to achieve their preferred balance of doneness/crust/gray band.

stinky: I usually sear with it just barely starting to smoke a little, which is a notch below high on my stove.
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02-21-2018 , 05:56 PM
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stinky: I usually sear with it just barely starting to smoke a little, which is a notch below high on my stove.
This is what I aim for as well when doing a sear.
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02-21-2018 , 10:35 PM
god damnit, I want on sale prime meat

also, great work lately
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