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05-12-2021 , 08:39 PM

#17176

27offsuit

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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak

Puttanesca is so hard to not make too salty

One of the handful of dishes I add no salt to and taste test at end.

It didn't need salt.

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05-12-2021 , 08:42 PM

#17177

27offsuit

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Hot parm.

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05-12-2021 , 09:14 PM

#17178

REDeYeS00

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grizy,
i do this with non-stick and all-clad pans, but the same thing should apply to your new pan in the post above.
instead of using a scrubber sponge to clean dried food after cooking, pour in a healthy amount of water while it's still hot on the stove (keeping the burner on) and lightly scrape off the food bits with a wood or silicone spatula. essentially you're deglazing the pan without actual food in it.
it shouldn't take long to get the pan to a place where a few wipes with a soapy soft sponge after you dump the water out will finish the job.
i've found i get a lot more mileage out of my non-stick surfaces using this approach.

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05-12-2021 , 09:19 PM

#17179

REDeYeS00

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and yes durango, i'm going to spread the parm love for that post. any day, all day

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05-12-2021 , 10:07 PM

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Malucci

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Yeah that Parm looked unbelievable

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05-13-2021 , 05:14 AM

#17181

Da_Nit

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All I’ve been thinking about lately is chicken parm and Philly cheesesteaks.

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05-13-2021 , 10:51 AM

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Bigdaddydvo

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Originally Posted by durango155

Homemade chicken parm was very tasty, I buried the sauce under the cheese to keep it simple before I melted the mozzarella and parm. Chicken marinated in egg milk and spices, pounded a bit then breadcrumbs and fried in a mix of olive oil, canola and butter. Let it cool then sauce layer, cheese and bake. Very happy with results and forgot how good of a leftover chicken parm sub it makes!

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05-13-2021 , 06:01 PM

#17183

grizy

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TLDR: MSG is almost certainly harmless on its own. However, it makes total junk so delicious it probably contributes to obesity and a host of other diet related illnesses.

I am going to keep sprinkling chicken powder/MSG on a bunch of stuff I cook.

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05-13-2021 , 06:32 PM

#17184

thethethe

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Did my Uni dissertation largely on MSG, in part to piss off the hippies on my course.

Actually better for you than normal salt. Less sodium and you don't need to use as much.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/msg...-sodium-intake

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05-13-2021 , 09:13 PM

#17185

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How do y'all use MSG?

I bought a big container of it but never use it (not because I'm anti-BIG MSG) because the few times I did, I didn't notice any impact on flavor

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05-14-2021 , 12:52 AM

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amoeba

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Originally Posted by yimyammer

How do y'all use MSG?

I bought a big container of it but never use it (not because I'm anti-BIG MSG) because the few times I did, I didn't notice any impact on flavor

I dont really use it these days as it's sort of a crutch but it's most effective in soups and sauces. Mixed with salt and spices and sprinkled on fried foods/grilled foods is also effective.

If the dish is heavy on the salt, the MSG will not really shine through. The key to MSG is that it brings out flavor without dramatically increasing salinity.

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05-14-2021 , 03:02 AM

#17187

rickroll

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it's actually really funny the origin of msg demonization was a white guy pretending to be an asian with insider knowledge as a prank and it just became part of the zeitgeist

this american life did an episode on it, you can listen here https://www.thisamericanlife.org/668/the-long-fuse

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this myth of MSG being harmful can be traced back to one letter in the New England Journal of Medicine.

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So the letter reads, "For several years since I have been in this country, I have experienced a strange syndrome whenever I have eaten out in a Chinese restaurant. The syndrome, which usually begins 15 to 20 minutes after I've eaten the first dish, last for about two hours without any hangover effect. The most prominent symptoms are numbness at the back of the neck"--

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Human crock. Ho Man Kwok. I know, cringy. An offensive pun on a Chinese name. A white guy playing an Asian for laughs. Keep in mind, this was the '60s. He said he made up the name of Dr. Kwok's research institute and his title, too. He said that Chinese food wasn't the point of it, except for that they were at a Chinese restaurant, eating and drinking a little too much the night they made the bet. And Howard won that bet. Yes, it wasn't an article, it was a letter. But it was printed in the Journal. Good enough for them.

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05-14-2021 , 03:14 AM

#17188

rickroll

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just listed and forgot there's controversy that the white guy faked it and there's a real ho man kwok who may have written the letter

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05-14-2021 , 03:20 AM

#17189

27offsuit

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I half-recall 'No MSG' when ordering chinese food becoming a thing around the same time as the emergence of yuppies. On par with "Mikey from the LIFE cereal commercials dying from eating pop rocks and drinking soda."

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05-14-2021 , 08:13 AM

#17190

thethethe

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Posh takeaway tonight! Technically there is a very little bit of cooking...

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05-14-2021 , 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit

To be entirely honest, even my Taiwanese grandmothers and many other relatives believed, and many still believe, that MSG is unhealthy. I've heard the same from immigrants from other Asian countries too.

The MSG=unhealthy myth has spread pretty far into Asian countries.

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05-14-2021 , 10:36 AM

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amoeba

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Overuse of MSG is kind of like putting too much cheese on all your pasta dishes.

Yim, I think if you want to see the difference that MSG makes, the clearest way is for something like tomato sauce.

Have one batch with normal amount of salt.

Have another batch with 75% of the salt of batch one + 50% to 75% of original in MSG.

But if you are already doing stuff like putting fish sauce in bolognese, the addition of MSG won't make that much of a difference.

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05-14-2021 , 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by amoeba

Overuse of MSG is kind of like putting too much cheese on all your pasta dishes.

Too much cheese?

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05-14-2021 , 04:54 PM

#17194

grizy

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Cheese has MSG

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05-14-2021 , 07:56 PM

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yimyammer

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Originally Posted by amoeba

thanks for the tips, I'll start testing it out on various stuff

here's a relevant video that somehow magically popped up when watching YouTube videos, I wonder how the heck that happened?

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