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Originally Posted by Claunchy
Not to mention that in college you get to go to parties and have sex with lots of women and generally do jack **** most of the time. Beats being on the road.
obv if he's a super high pick there's something to think about, but if he's gonna be a 30th rounder it's college, not even close.
This is clearly motivation, but will be a little awkward coming from me since he is dating my niece right now. There is a very good chance that I will show him this thread.
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Originally Posted by Franchise 60
The obvious and only answer is it depends on where he is drafted and what kind of money he is offered.
I like the simple EV calc., but how does he value the things posters have mentioned, such as the ability to mature in college, the danger of injury, the ability to go to a school on scholarship that he wouldn't even be able to get into on grades alone, etc. I mean, early first round is a clear home run. 45th round and the discussion is academic.
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Originally Posted by cpitt398
being a pitcher, it might be better for him to go straight pro. A hurt arm can end someone's career pretty quick, might as well start getting the paychecks as soon as possible. Its not like the coaches in the minors will hinder his progress.
I was thinking this as well, but there is the problem of valuing the things brought up by other posters as noted above.
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Originally Posted by Sooga
Minor leaguers typically make like $1k-2k per month, and only during playing months. I think we can all agree that only a small fraction of minor leaguers ever make it to the major leagues for any extended period of time. Plus, unless you're top-draft talent, your signing bonus is not going to be life-changing money.
So you can either:
a) go play a few years in college, where your room/board/education is taken care of, and then if you're good enough, you might be able to step right into the majors, or maybe a year or two at AAA. If not, then you're out in the real world with a college degree, or maybe a year or two of classes short of your degree.
b) grind in the minors for $1-2k per month for a few years and then if you're good enough, you might be able to step into the majors. If not, then you're out in the real world with just a high school diploma.
Of course, I might be overestimating the level of play at the collegiate level. If it's worse than A-ball, then I can definitely see why going pro would be a better choice.
D1 college ball, as I understand it, is quite competitive. I don't think you are overestimating, but I just started looking into this in the last week and am finding the learning curve steep. Anyone that can confirm or deny competitive level of D1 college ball?
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Originally Posted by kattrades
One of the top ten pitching draft choices coming from high school now is a friend of my family. He is considering going to a junior college so that he won't have to wait until after his junior year to be drafted in case he attends a four year university. This way he has more opportunities to be drafted. It would also give him a chance to work on developing better study habits for later when he does get serious with school.
I was looking at the MLB draft rules and found this option a bit strange. It seems like a good option for kids who expect to go very low in the draft and don't have the grades or interest from a good D1 program. If what you are saying is that a top 10 high school pitcher is seriously considering going to JC to improve his chances of drafting higher next year or the year after, then wow. It is harder to get drafted out of high school then I was initially led to believe.
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Originally Posted by AsianPlayboy
Make sure he saves/invests a HUGE bulk of his money. You never know when your career will end. The money he's making in a just a couple of years should essentially set him up for life.
+1 on college being overated
For sure. I'll keep him away from Lenny Dykstra.
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
College isn't worth much, but neither is being a late round draft pick in baseball. As a minor league player you make painfully little money and chances are you'll never make the majors. At some point the signing bonus is enough that it's worth while to go at it for three or four years and see how it goes. I think around 100,000$ is probably the right amount. Otherwise, go to college, and hope during your time there the talent evaluators don't view you any worse, and you can go take your shot while finishing up your degree.
$100k barely covers the cost of 2 years tuition at some of the schools showing interest in him. Valuing the options is kind of tricky.
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Originally Posted by mullen
This, ainec. He can decide after he gets drafted to go to school, depending his draft position and the signing bonus.
If he gets hurt or can't make it through the minors, he can always go back to school.
AS I understand from reading the MLB draft rules, he has 15 days to sign. The draft will be in June 2011, well after the time he has to make a D1 commitment. I can imagine that there would be some intense pressure from family and the school at that point to go to school, and perhaps to not even enter the draft.
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Originally Posted by ShowUthExit
Yea he can sign with a school first and then see where he gets drafted and what the signing bonus would look like. The decision gets alot easier with that extra info.
How does this work politically and practically? I need a lot more info on how this works.
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
One question, if he goes to college now it'll be free, right? If he goes to college later will he still be able to get a scholarship?
Obviously the amount of money being offered to go pro now is the major factor but I think getting a free college education at a great school is worth a lot.
Assume full scholarship at a school that he otherwise would not be able to get into on grades alone.
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Originally Posted by ShowUthExit
If he goes to school later it will be because he is accepting money now as a professional. You cannot get an athletic scholarship after accepting money/turning pro.
I think that is correct.
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
What aspirations does he have in life if he couldn't be a pro baseball player?
No major aspirations. He'd probably go into the family general contractor business.