You are drawing conclusions about what people think when everyone actually doesn't think this. Most people would agree that a carnivore diet is better than the standard bullshit people are eating. And people that have numerous health problems and are looking to diet are going to be eating like crap. So, yes, I would expect those people to see positive health benefits for these cases.

What you cannot answer in an actual scientific way (maybe you can, but you have yet to do it) is if carnivore is better than, say, for the sake of the title of the this thread, a vegan diet. And I am damn certain that a carnivore diet is suboptimal to a balanced diet that includes fruits and vegetables.

I am also damn certain that you don't need to resort to these types of diets to lose weight, maintain a healthy lifestyle, and avoid health problems.

He explains how he went from eating pizza and everything sugar to NOT eating those things and started feeling better. If that's not scientific evidence what is? Youtube videos I guess lolol.

Yeah, definitely love how it’s “pizza and everything else” or pure carnivore. Those are the only two diet options.

He ate pizza and felt shitty, therefore vegetables are poison.

Don’t forget about the Facebook group!

I see... you should be a politician.

Let me change the question and give you an open canvass for your answer: what psychological disorders does the carnivore diet cure in your, professional or otherwise, opinion?

We don’t really use the term “cure” for most mental illnesses. I think the rationale for that is it is too stigmatizing and implies something is “wrong” with someone who has a mental illness.

That being said, I’m not aware of any particular mental illnesses that the carnivore diet directly helps with just by virtue of being carnivore.

THAT being said, the alleviation of symptoms for some mental illnesses by maintaining a healthy body weight and eliminating processed foods and chemicals from your diet combined with regular exercise has been shown to be effective. This can be accomplished with both carnivore and vegan diets.


To be honest, the whole premise of the thread is pointless. People are different. What works for some may not work for others.

And what are you guys even arguing? Pure weight loss? Cardiovascular health? Muscle mass? Athleticism? Mental health?

If carnivore contributes to weight loss for someone, even if it is by eating fewer calories and increasing muscle mass by eating so much protein, OR if the vegan diet works for someone in weight loss by eating fruits and vegetables, what difference does it make? People should do what works for them.

The reason you guys are going around in circles is because there’s no solid premise to the thread and no clearly defined measure of success.

At the end of the day, I think everyone agrees that processed foods, chemicals, additives, and refined sugars are all terrible for your health. Whatever method you choose to eliminate them is up to the individual. For me, vegetables aren’t terribly tasty and not satiating at all. I prefer meat. It fills me up, gives me the protein I need for muscle recovery after working out, and I enjoy the taste. This may not be the case for others and that’s ok.

People should do what works for them and not be so quick to judge others if they choose a different path to health.

There isn't?

It’s not considered politically correct. An argument can be made for the other side but that’s just how the field views it currently. I mean, if you’re dealing with someone who has Generalized Anxiety Disorder, for example, telling that person there’s something wrong with them wouldn’t really help the situation and comes across as insensitive.

IMO (and as someone who has suffered with mental health issues of various types), the 'be sensitive to mental health issues' movement has gone too far.

It was totally right to de-stigmatize it and not acknowledge legitimate issues and instead call people weak or nuts or crazy or w/e. But now we live in a world where too often 'mental health' is an excuse for not trying or or facing up to challenges etc etc.

That's true but I was on keto for over a year prior to getting much worse while I wasn't ingesting any artifical chemicals, sugar, or addatives but I did eat a lot of salads, vegetables, berries, almond milk, nuts and seeds, pastacio nuts and other items like meatballs that had some bread in them so in my case this would disprove that mental health issues might be due to the chemicals alone. Dr. Saladino may have uncovered an important fact about plant life containing chemicals that are there to protect the plant but are detrimental to our health.

I suffered more than anyone with GAD, and the only thing that kept me going when I was 18 years old and barely able to function, sleep or study in school was being told "you have something wrong in your body, you have a chemical imbalance, we're gonna work to correct it".

If I was ever told there was nothing wrong with me, or it was just a normal part of life, that could have ended up very badly for myself and my family because while I was suffering from it in those days I could't help but keep thinking to myself "now I know exactly why people commit suicide, it's because they feel how I'm feeling right now". I never understood why people would entertain taking their own life until I went through severe anxiety and panic attacks which were like walking into a room and someone scaring you, but instead of feeling that fear for a fraction of a second it's there constandly and I was able to bear with it only because I was told something was wrong with me and they're working on correcting it. That was literally the only thing I had to hold on to. So yes, an argument can be made on the other sides of the fence.

"But is there a study that shows correlation" is not what science is.

Studys are designed to make people rich by selling drugs and pharmacuticals, they're not gonna do a study that will suggest no one needs any more meds. I know it's gonna be hard to accept by the controlled masses, but that's the reality.

Please use the term ‘Sheeple’ from here on

I think the reason why people are going around in circles is because there is no evidence that a carnivore diet is not a very unhealthy diet longterm, but a few here are claiming it's the healthiest diet and one is claiming it can immediately completely ameliorate any condition from PTSD to alcoholism to who knows what else, probably blindness if you got him on a roll.

You have said sugars and carbs are poisonous. That is demonstrably not true. You're conflating what happens when one regularly consumes excessive amounts of sugars and carbs with sugars and carbs.

It's like if someone drinks several gallons of water in an hour and dies, it doesn't mean that drinking water causes hyponatremia. Your boy Playbig flat-out said vegetables are poisonous.


And what did they do to correct it? Surely you didn't suffer for 30 years until you ate the magical carnivore diet, yes?

Would, I don't know, say the meat industry, design a study that will suggest people should only eat meat, or is it only big pharma that is shady?

Oh sorry, I just came here and decided to check in here first, is that too bad?

Power-Self-Own...



https://arphysmed.com/2017/10/the-am...r-and-alcohol/

Offering 100k propbets, whilst being a broke 2$ donkament grinder.

Speaking on nutrition/diet with authority, whilst obese and having a bunch of YouTube quacks as a curriculum.

Many power-self-owns ITT

I could bet 200k now, if he wouldnt have puss'ed out like a blatant candy ass, as soon as i secured unlimited backing. He just wants drama ITT, but not the bet. LoL is nothing but a drama queen.

I play for fun, too. No big 6card events on PS. You see i shipped a 55$ lately, and play 300$ to 800$ cash stacks of which you can find pics in the same thread you've digged out there.

Check my health n fitness thread for updated pics. I'm 1.98m and at 101kg in good form.

I dont speak with authority, i speak from knowledge and experience. I've obviously made a joke in that PGnC thread that went waaay above your head.
I eat berries and bell peppers, walnuts and garlic... i'm not a carnivore anymore.
If i visit grandma, i even eat potatoes!

You tried to prove a point, and suceeded...
You are angry, because you are dumb
You are a very sad individium

I think it's pretty easy to tell which people are on the vegan side of things. They are the ones without arguments, or any single link to a study, or someone knowledable on youtube, but full of disbelieve regarding carnivore benefits.

Your brain needs animals fats, and seed oils make you ill.

Is Parasense banned for saying he's done with OOT and posting in this thread?

Also curious how playbig was on an keto diet before getting much worse when a keto diet is basically carnivore. Hmm, why didn't that keto diet do the same miraculous things the carnivore diet was doing?

No, he went crazy apparently in the Kamala thread in politics. Tons of deleted posts. Turns out he might believe some other crazy youtube **** besides just the meat quacks.

Keto isn't "basically carnivore". You can eat anything and everything on Keto, including sugar, cookies and ice cream. On Carnivore you only eat pure nutrient dense foods such as meat, eggs, chicken and fish, and nothing else.

All keto means is to eat under 20 to 50 grams of carbs per day, which forces the body to burn fat for fuel instead of getting it from blood sugar. Your body still goes into ketosis on both diets, but the only difference is what you're actually eating.

You said you were eating a pint of salted caramel ice cream every day when you were keto. I think it's safe to say you thought you were eating keto but weren't actually eating keto.

I posit a lot of you guys are going to have blowouts like your boy Parasense has.

I was but it was "keto friendly", only had 1g of "net carbs" per pint (since most of the carbs come from sugar alcohols which don't affect insulin levels).

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*here is a tip if you decide to try it, let it sit out like 20 minutes before eating it so it gets soft. It's even better than most standard ice creams.