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In general, mlylt would do well to just read everything she's ever written.

mlylt,

Was code 3 cheating on you before, after or during the time you were ****ing guys from Tinder?

Accepting an offer, and then quitting before your start date is pretty bad form and will generally damage your reputation with the company you are spurning. They will have informed the other candidates that they did not get the position, and it may result in a fresh hiring search having to be conducted.

That said, giving someone two days to accept a job offer is also pretty meh, so there is that.

If it comes up, you'll have to weigh burning this bridge against the benefit of the other job. Lots of this is a function of how tightly knit the professional network for your industry is in your area, as sometimes reputation is very important in the more "incestuous" local markets.

This is a joke, right?

It depends on exact contract conditions. Here for example one standard thing is that you have to work for at least 4 weeks, when you accepted. And it ruins your reputation with anyone who was dealing with you.

How on earth is this enforced?

Mlylt,

While in general I agree with the comments, I think you have to balance them against what's best for your life.

If you know you made a mistake under the time pressure, it's not really the right fit for you, and you're going to be looking for a better opportunity right away, then it may be best to just admit to them you made a mistake accepting the offer and after giving it further thought you can't take it.

Backing out after accepting is not good, but it's a lot better than quitting soon after starting. And at the end of the day, you need to make the best choice for you and your daughter.

lol at this after all the tirades about code's lack of commitment etc

and a bigger lol at anyone spending any energy helping her find a job that won't last a month. mlylt would be better served applying for a position at the dmv.

Why isn't anyone talking about what's best for the fetus?

Clearly no one can force you to work well. Company can't even prevent you from calling in sick for this 4 weeks. But what they can do, is to not let you accept another job in this time and give you a ****ty reference.

I guess the company should feel free to tell you they were just joking and give the position to someone else right of the blue too?

Serious question. Can't they?

I mean in Germany it is completely symmetric. In a first 6 months both sides can give one month notice without giving any reasons for that. It is considered bad etiquette, but it is done, although rather seldom.

How it is in USA? How long is standard probation period? With which notice can the company let an engineer go and vice versa?

The standard probation period of 6 months. But, a company does not give an employee any notice at all when they let someone go. It's standard for an employee to give 2weeks notice though.

In Germany the company actually gives the employees notice????

Sure, I was more thinking now before she's even started though. I guess technically both sides can do pretty much whatever before anything is signed , but it would be a terribly unclassy move imo.

Yup. In a probation period it is 1 month. Later 3 month. And after a certain number of years 6 month. That are standards. In some cases (rather seldom) it differs to the longer side, and then it is very explicitly written in a contract.

Clearly if you steal or appear drunk or so at the job, company can let you go without a notice. But it has to be really complete misbehaviour.

Obviously just my experience, but I've had my own company not inform me that a decision had been made when I was applying internally. I found out when a regularly scheduled open positions email landed in my inbox without the job being listed. Fun! Assuming that all HR staffs - and HR is usually the dregs of humanity - are competent enough to inform applicants that they're losers is extremely generous. Especially when talking about a timeline of, presumably, days.

The two-day acceptance ultimatum raises the chances that they're idiots.

I hope they chain you to your desk for the 4 weeks, but probably the employer can seek damages from some sort of labor court/tribunal/board.

In Canada where we don't have at-will employment, you need to give "reasonable notice." The minimum standard is that you have to give 1 wk notice if you've been there < 2yrs; and 2 wks for 2+ years. But in many cases "reasonable notice" is longer and depends on how important your role is in the company and how long it would take to find and train a replacement.

For example, in a case regarding an the oil industry, someone gave 2-weeks notice, but the court ruled 9 months was reasonable notice and awarded the employer $73,000 in lieu of notice. On appeal, the judge changed this to 18 months having been reasonable notice and awarded the employer $146,000.

I've read that the notice you give should be equivalent to your yearly vacation allowance. Good news mlylt! You only need to work 1 week at this new employer should you decide to take the other job!

In lieu of a response I'm going to take this as a yes, it was while you were ****ing a bunch of rando Tinders.

aiott,

Obviously we don't really have all the details, but my understanding is code definitely cheated before she ****ed random tinder guys. It's unclear whether or not she considers him to have cheated after that or not.

After endless rants about how everyone only cares about themselves except for mlylt this is gold.

No he cheated on me while we were still together and making plans on our next move. I ****ed tinder guys after the fact(and after we broke up) to give him a taste of his own medicine.

MLYLT,

lol

JFC.

Couldn't you have just claimed you ****ed a guy without actually doing it?