Hey, if that's the biggest mistake in my post, I'll take it. I didn't even know how that word is spelled

mlylt is from texas so I'm sure her spelling/grammar are pretty above average

still a good idea to get a review itt first before sending out clear mistakes

just to pile on, I just got done looking for a job along with about 20 other ppl in a technical field. our program had multiple job coaches, recruiters, and resume professionals talk to us and work with us. I can remember like 8. every single one said that the biggest red flag that hiring managers look at is spelling and grammar errors.

heres the thing, they need to find a way to differentiate the hundreds of letters and resumes they get. its super easy to chuck the few that have these simple errors.

I'm just teasing, I make my own mistakes as well. It's an interesting challenge when posting online; I used to worry so much about errors that I couldn't hit the post button, plus, I think the self correct feature has ruined my ability to spell without help.

Points in the vid:
- There is 23 % pay gap between men and women averaged over job market

She acknowledges this and in the sentence after she says that pay gap vanishes, if you consider different majors.

- This pay gap results from women making different choices than men ( there are more men in engineering than as teachers and engineers do earn more than teachers. Consequently pay gap)

The stat above is differentiated on the professions. So her point is invalid.


Dom, dig-out some stats.

I would toss a resume or application with spelling errors for a minimum wage job if I were hiring unless I was desperate or it was like some huge dude applying for a very physical manual labor job or something. Thinking you have a chance at an $80k job and it's ok is so lol.

That's the point. When someone says "women make xx cents for every dollar a man makes", it's extremely misleading and dishonest. For the same job, women and men are generally paid equally (I'm sure you could find professions where women are paid more than men and vice versa).

If you want to argue that women don't have as many opportunities for high paying jobs, that's reasonable. CEOs and high paid executives are generally men, and that's going to skew the gap quite a bit. But there are mitigating factors such as women not choosing technical/skilled degrees and professions or women leaving the workforce when having children and thus diminishing some of their opportunities.

Also, about 10% of engineers are women, and about 25% of people involved in the computing field are women. Both of these fields can be very lucrative. Women aren't being refused jobs, there just aren't nearly as many women getting the necessary degrees/skills than men.


Bottom line is the discussion started because MLYLT claimed she was getting paid far less than some of her coworkers, and that she does a better job. This has yet to be proven accurate, and it is still very much up in the air whether she is actually good at her jobs or not.

Regarding the spelling and grammar...

If you can't figure out how to spell correctly and use proper grammar in your correspondance with a potential employer, what makes you think they won't assume you're similarly lax in your work?

Wat

The whole point is that this bull**** stat is akin to saying it's unfair that NFL defensive lineman get to eat more food than Olympic figure skaters. In other words, the stat is meaningless.

It's always better to base your opinions on random YouTube videos than on scientific research.

Confirmed no pay gap.

No stats Dom? Come on.

I know that in your opinion u having a dick is an achievement in itself. But you know.... It is really not worth a lot.

In other words you trying to troll me is meaningless.

The stats I have shown are differentiated on the job. I disagree with statement that women and men do get paid the same for the same job.

Disagree with it on the basis of this stats and on the basis of personal experience. You can argue that in USA everything is different. I asked Dom to dig out stats about it so taht we could step away from personal experience
of MLYLT or mine.

pretty good podcast on the topic

http://freakonomics.com/podcast/the-...radio-podcast/

Time to start up an engineering firm wth all indentured servant women making 70 cents on the dollar and take over the world with all the sweet, sweet profits.

Engineers are hit or miss when it comes to interpersonal communication, customer service, and being expected to manage a relationship.

That's entirely different from a context of written, formal communication. I'd expect proofreading. I'd expect signs of clear thought and an ability to express those clear thoughts in a standard, effective way.

Although a trolling, it has some good thought in it. ^^

I thought basically about going in a freelancing mode. There is an area in plant engineering where I totally can be a good consultant. I have also money to buy hardware and software I need to do it on my own efficiently. I know usual rates and I could offer 10% under the market and still be good.

The stopping condition for me is marketing/sales/client acquisition. I am just bad as a sales man. It stresses me out, I don't want to do it, I don't like it. And dealing with taxes. It is tough enough with my simple tax form now, as a freelancer..... it is 10000 times worse.

This seems relevant in a conversation about pay gap and someone complaining about being paid less.

Jesus, you don't give up, do you? Fine, after spending approximately 7 seconds googling "why the wage gap isn't real", I found this article in the Atlantic...it supports the video I posted previously:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...ge-gap/276367/

You can find more and more if you just ****ing LOOK.

This data has been discussed to death over in politard land. The consensus seems to be after correcting for everything the true gap is about 5% or less (even the article you link says the gap "almost disappears" instead of "disappears"). Some people shrug this off as ~0, while others say 5% over an entire career is a ****ton of money. But I think most would agree that the 70% figure that gets thrown about is misleading.

I also think outing all of the attention on a near-mythical wage gap helps to pull attention away from real gender issues and inequalities.

Great point. 5% $80,000 compounding for 30 years is 400 grand

In Canada, when an occupational group has more than 500 members, it is considered to be a “female dominated group” if at least 55 per cent of its members are women. In order to determine whether wage discrimination has taken place, the test isn't whether women hold a specific job get paid less then men holding the same job; rather, the pay received by members of this female-dominated group are compared to the pay received by the members of a “male dominated” group.

Canada Post lost a $5 billion pay equity lawsuit based on the lower wages they paid people in female-dominated jobs such as benefits clerks, accounts payable clerks and frontline contact workers; vs what they paid people in male-dominated jobs such as letter carriers, and mail handlers and sorters. It took 30 years to make its way through the court and was unanimously upheld by the supreme court.

Bell Canada lost a similar case for paying the female-dominated operators less than they paid employees in male-dominant roles. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1163310/

lol'd

Borderline Personality Disorder. You might have it. 'Traumatic abandonment issues' are often associated.

Most health professionals aren't elite at their jobs. Some have a philosophy of under-diagnosing their patients (mental health) to help keep them sane ie- so they don't feel stigmatized.

Here is some reading to further determine your mindset:

https://www.amazon.com/Hate-You-Dont.../dp/0399536213

I've read the first ~30 pages and it seems decent/easy to digest. At the very least you will gain a stronger understanding of what BPD is.