A friend questioned my decision making, and I'd like to get the OOT treatment.

Left the Golden Nugget after 2+2 buffet on Thursday. I went out and bought some postcards to send home and a USA Today Sports Weekly. My buddy stayed to play cards, so I took the bus home.

The stop is just a bit down from the Nugget. After waiting for a few minutes, I heard a commotion back from the hotel. It appeared as if some guy was in the process of being kicked out or a fight was being broken up. He walked towards the stop backwards, yelling back at the people who had escorted him. I would guess he was intoxicated.

I decided to try and avoid any contact with the guy, so I started reading the paper. I notice him walking by in my peripheral vision, but then stops a little to my right. He turns back and says, "Let me see that paper," in a very aggressive tone. I look up, and he repeats, "Let me see that paper," in the same tone.

OOT, what do you do?

my initial reaction is AWW HELL NO

then I started to wonder:
how big is this guy?
your fight experience?

Act like you're handing it to him with your left arm (if you're on the right side of the bus) extended to the aisle. His face will be turned far enough that he doesn't see your wound up right hook smack him. He will go down quick, beat his face against the floor, it will bounce.

No one believes a belligerent drunk guy that just got thrown out of a hotel anyway.

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You shouldn't fake read the paper thats just gay. How big was he?

Doesn't matter. Someone that wasted is going to get owned by anyone.

[x] cheap shot
[x] guy was wasted
[ ] socially acceptable

Being an abusive prick to someone without a reason is just as cheap. Justice imo.

lol, this is not the high school bully who keeps pushing around people day after day after day and needs to be taught a lesson.

This is a complete stranger. If you pick a fight with him and win, what do you have? You will have a torn newspaper and torn clothes and the good feeling of beating up a guy you will never see again in front of people you will never see again over a newspaper that will be worthless.

Pick.Your.Fights.Wisely.

I'm going to go ahead and disagree. I've seen so many totally wasted dudes win fights just because they're too drunk to actually stay down. If they don't actually get KO'd they will just keep coming back for more.

If I think I can take guy, "**** you"
If I think he can take me, "sure, here you go"

MP I question your decision-making based purely on your decision to take a bus in downtown Vegas. Cab ftw.

Pros and cons of fighting with him
Pro: You prove how large your testicles are
Pro: You stand up for yourself against the drunks of Las Vegas
Con: You could end up with broken bones/cuts
Con: You could seriously injure him beyond what you think he deserves
Con: You could come across like a violent thug

Pros and cons of giving him the paper and walking away
Pro: You avoid a pointless fight
Pro: You save him and everyone else some trouble
Pro: Drunk guy gets to read the paper
Con: You lose the paper
Con: Nobody around will ever see how large your testicles are

Conclusion: Give him the paper.

I'm not too sure how big he is. I didn't get a great look at him. I will say that he was big enough that I didn't think I could outside him (I'm 6'0", 155), but not too big to the point that I had no chance in a fight.

I have little real world fight experience. But I do have about 4 months BJJ training, and I do feel pretty confident in my ability to at least neutralize someone.

One drawback was that I was sitting on a bench when he asked, so I was at a disadvantage in terms of mobility.

Yeah, I'm still new to town, and when I looked at the bus line, I figured it was close enough to the casino to be safe-ish. I won't be doing that again. Live and learn imo.

I think this guy is so wasted its not going to make much differnce if he sees the paper or not, hes looking for a fight and you are the only one around.. I'd throw the paper up in the air to distract him then eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaahhh h!!!! jumping up from the bench seat into a spinning round house kick straight to the testicles, i'd lay another 3 or 4 jabs into him while he is enroute to the pavement before catching the paper to sit down and fake read again. true story.

The logical answer is to just give up the paper and avoid unnecessary conflict and potential injury. That being said I'm hard headed and probably wouldn't give him the paper. I wouldn't respond with getting in his face or provoking a fight(more of a tit-for-tat), but for some reason drunk aggressive people really annoy me so i don't like giving in to their demands.

You are already sitting down, the perfect position for a down-right fierce Shoryuken. Hit him with some light jabs to stun him on your way down and pick his ass up with a hurricane kick. Try to get some more combos in but don't be too flashy cuz he might be so drunk he doesn't even feel it and will keep getting up and might catch you off guard.

I probably completely ignore this guy and see if he escalates. Once he realizes he's not going to get a reaction out of you he'll probably move on, but if he starts grabbing the paper I'd just let him have it.

He just wants to see the paper, what's the big deal? Show him the paper. It sounds like he's had a bad night cut him some slack. If you don't get it back within a few minutes break his legs.

Just give him a section of the paper that you're not reading. Also, I doubt that not giving up the paper is going to start a fight.

Ya at this point I'm measuring the worth of the item they want to take against the chance of a bad outcome in the fight. Losing 0.55 for a newspaper is only annoying for the 'he took it from me' value.

If you had forgotten the newspaper on the bus or something you wouldn't have missed it. IMO, this is not the place to showcase your MMA skillz.

1 vote for bitch out....

nothing to prove and everything to lose in this spot. btw pretty sure 'what section?' or something similar could be used so you still have something to read

OP, the answer to this rides on just exactly how likely Drunky is to actually do anything about your refusal to surrender your paper. Not having been there, my guess is that the vast majority of the time, he's pissed off that he got kicked out and his ego is starved for a victory of any kind, even if that means stealing your newspaper. He's not willing to spill life's blood all over Fremont Street for a 75-cent Sports Weekly. So if you bend, you will feel even more like a bitch than you would if it were, say, 50/50 that refusing him would result in a fight.

For example, a couple weeks ago I needed to drop something off at an apartment complex. Since all I needed to do was run up to the door and come back, I just left my car in the easiest spot. As I was getting out of my car, I was accosted by an Angry Black Woman in an SUV (that probably wasn't hers) screaming at me that she was in a hurry and I need to move my car:



Now, this may seem reasonable, but in the time it would have taken me to move, she could have easily found a much quicker way around me:



And what was she going to do about it besides yell at me some more? Ram my car with her (not really) SUV? I held all the leverage: I was there first, she could have gone where she needed to be faster without making me move, and she was being a belligerent beeotch and there wasn't a goddamn thing she could do to stop me.

I moved my car.

I hated myself all day for being such a sackless weenie about it.

I probably just give him the paper. Not worth the effort..

If not, gogoplata him..

Say 'sure' and stand up holding the paper in your left hand. Smile and begin to hand him the paper. Then lunge forward and crush his instep. Guaranteed his drunk ass won't be expecting this and if he does react it will be to brace and put his hands up. Follow by shoving the paper in his face with the left and deliver a ball crushing blow with your right.

Or you could take private jokers advice which is probably best. It sucks to give in to bullies, but it is pretty much -ev doing anything else in this spot as pointed out. Doesn't really matter how big you are/small he is, he could have a concealed bat.