El Diablo,

Between #2 and #3. My last fight the police did come and the aggressor was charged. I think the intent is generally for #3 but between intoxication of the aggressor and rapid response to break it up there is no opportunity for something to develop to that level.

too bad arm wrestling didn't settle arguments like it used to.

I have never been in a fight.

lol no

no one wants to fight a guy crazy enough to long toss by himself. for hours at a time.

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Henry,

What level beatdown does the drunk guy squirting hot sauce on your pizza get?

How would you see it proceeding if instead of walking away he just stayed there laughing?

I have been in a very similar situation and am curious to see how your answer compares to what happened in my situation.

Throw the pizza in his face LDO

Another real-life scenario:

I grew up in SEC football country. When I was about ten years old, my best friend and I, and each of our dads (who also were close friends), went to an away game at the University of Georgia. The game ends at night and we are walking along the side of a road to our car. Traffic on the road is very stop and go. A car stops in the slow moving traffic and a college guy rolls down his window and waves my friend's dad over to the car. When my friend's dad gets to the car, the college guy pulls out a squirt gun filled with piss and sprays him in the face.

How do you respond (keeping in mind that your friend, your son, and another ten-year old are watching)?

Every time I go to a bar or pizza place I just take a quick look for the smallest guy there and bust him up a little. Once everyone knows you mean business they will generally leave you alone the rest of the night.

i've never been in a real fight, but i suspect that most of that is do to my size. And i'm also in Alobars camp that there is no real reason to fight 99%+ of the time as long as you aren't some trashy douchebag that actually enjoys getting in fights.

im sure henry thinks im a pussy.

Not going over in the first place seems wise.
I'd probably flip though. Not rational decision time imo.

Roc,

That reminds me of another situation, coincidentally also in Georgia. Very curious what Henry and others do in this situation.

In Buckhead, sort of the main bar/partying district in downtownish Atlanta. Traffic on Peachtree Street often slows to a crawl on the main strip. Traffic is crawling along like 5-10mph. Some nice Lexus or something similar slams on the brakes, and a Taurus or something bumps it super slightly at like 2mph. Absolutely zero damage, not even close.

Guy gets out of the car. Medium-big (like 6'2 decent shape) black dude, some big chains, looks right out of a rap video, exactly the stereotype you're thinking, gets out of the car, walks around to the trunk and opens it. Pulls out a bat or tire iron and just wails on the hood of the sedan like 5-6 giant swings, giant bangs you can hear up and down the street. He does this until the light turns green, then calmly puts it back in the trunk, gets back into his car, and slowly drives off.

The people in the Taurus (white couple) sat there motionless while this was going on. Curious as to what Henry and others would do in this situation.

Roc,

Re: your situation, I would 100% punch him in the face if it were me and my friends in the car. With kids in the car, I would take a cell phone pic of him and his car/plate, then call the cops.

Slam that foot on the gas as hard as you can.

DTC,

FYI, there was at least a passenger in the Lexus (another male), don't recall if there was anyone else in the car. Also there is absolutely no exit path for the Taurus to get out of there.

El D,

You and I are living parallel lives. About six months ago, I saw a similar incident at 10 in the morning on Houston Street in NYC. A sedan cut off a guy in a pickup who was trying to get through a red light. When both cars stopped at the next light, the driver of the pickup calmly got out of his vehicle, walked up to the guy who cut him off, caved in his back windshield with a tire iron, and then returned calmly to his truck.

The driver of the sedan waited patiently for the green light and drove away.

I don't know what I would have done in the situation you describe. I certainly would not have gotten out of my car to confront an angry guy with a crowbar. Running him down sounds like a capital idea until his friend gets out of the car and shoots your wife.

Before the piss squirter could roll his window all the way up, my friend's dad got his fingers over the top of the window and literally ripped it out of the car. He then punched the guy in the face through the window a couple of times before the traffic cleared.

I have to be honest. As a ten year old, I was pretty impressed with my friend's dad.

Some guy squirting piss into my face and another one pounding the hood of my car, these are things where if you don't respond you cross into pussy category. I am bigger than depicted tire iron guy however, if he were bigger than me, my apprehension would positively correlate but I would still do something.

For those of you that wouldn't respond to either of these where do you draw the line as far as getting walked all over?

Michael,

What if you're 90+% sure other guy in hood-pounding situation has a gun and has absolutely no problem shooting someone in a situation like this?

YOLO

If a guy beat on my car with a tire iron, I would be angry enough to fight him, but actually doing it would be risky business. You are running a non-trivial risk of getting your head caved in with a tire iron. What if he had a gun in the other hand? Are you you still jumping out of the car to throw down?

Michael,

Dunno if you've lived in urban areas much, but it's pretty easy to handicap pretty accurately how likely people in certain areas are to have a gun and use it. In SF, for example, any aggressive Hispanic dude dressed a certain way in the mission is a huge favorite to have a gun (or at very least a knife, which I'm actually far more concerned about in most bar situations I've been involved in) and be very fast and loose about using it.

The key profiling point in the situation above is not the black or chains things, it's the fact that he got out of his car and started smashing the **** out of the other car for virtually no reason.

My comment was based on his conduct, not his appearance. What are the odds that a guy who will pull that stunt also has a gun in his car? Wild-ass guess would be 5-10% chance. That's a pretty significant risk.

Follow him and call the cops.