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Old 05-02-2010, 10:02 PM   #276
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Did you extract her definition of porn?
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:06 PM   #277
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Is tugging porn-free really that big of an issue?
Are you a woman? Porn is not necessary if you have binoculars and a hot neighbor lounging by the pool. Obviously it helps. Especially when he's pulling it at least once a day. Question is, can he tug with no visual stimuli?
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:14 PM   #278
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I guess this makes sense, as male masturbation tends to approximate sex, more or less, while female masturbation is perhaps approximating foreplay, and often doesn't involve penetration at all, and therefore isn't really a sex substitute.

Does this mean though, that if every time you needed to get off you would be willing not only to meet your own needs, but also to help your wife get hers met as well? I think part of the benefit of masturbation is that you don't need to worry about pleasing anyone else. I'm sure there are some times where you just want to get off and then get on with your day, and masturbation is a much better release for that than having sex with another person and all the extra work that entails.

Or maybe that's just me.
It's absolutely not just you. I've had gfs that do everything I want sexually as much as I want but if they're at work, asleep, or just away in general I often just want to take the 10 minutes, get the release and move on with my day.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:18 PM   #279
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Does this mean though, that if every time you needed to get off you would be willing not only to meet your own needs, but also to help your wife get hers met as well? I think part of the benefit of masturbation is that you don't need to worry about pleasing anyone else. I'm sure there are some times where you just want to get off and then get on with your day, and masturbation is a much better release for that than having sex with another person and all the extra work that entails.
I think pretty much all the time males would rather have sex with females in preference to masturbating
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:19 PM   #280
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Does this mean though, that if every time you needed to get off you would be willing not only to meet your own needs, but also to help your wife get hers met as well? I think part of the benefit of masturbation is that you don't need to worry about pleasing anyone else. I'm sure there are some times where you just want to get off and then get on with your day, and masturbation is a much better release for that than having sex with another person and all the extra work that entails.

Or maybe that's just me.
No that actually is one of the better arguments for it -- it gets you where you need to go faster and with less effort than the alternative. As long as the sex life is satisfying to both parties I can't see someone objecting to this. If the other person isn't satisfied though it would likely be an issue.

I never considered this since lack of time isn't really an issue for me but I would actually change my view a little for people who are just busy a lot. At least I agree with the guys who say masturbation is inferior to sex for men and so a guy would have to be quite busy / tired to make opting for it the better option. I don't think people's lives are that busy most of the time.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:21 PM   #281
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Thread still tilts me. Why do so many men marry neurotic women?
Because for some reason they want to get married, and they're straight.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:24 PM   #282
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:25 PM   #283
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"I'm immature and hopelessly insecure" isnt shouldn't be (but is) a trump card that means you get your way whenever you want because the "unreasonable request" scale always comes down in your favor.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:42 PM   #284
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Same for me. If the wife was willing and available for sex every time I got horny I could easily give up masturbation for life.
I think I'd have to quit my job to do this.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:44 PM   #285
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Wtf is up with this kind of threads? Haven't people heard of USER ACCOUNTS? You know you set up your own account with a password and other people in the household have their own accounts. You can also have a guest account as well.

I just can't believe this sort of thing happens.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:46 PM   #286
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Does this mean though, that if every time you needed to get off you would be willing not only to meet your own needs, but also to help your wife get hers met as well?
Looool.

Yeah i agree that:
Most guys will masturbate no matter how much sex they are getting.
They are definitely not willing to get their partner off every time they get off.
Henry is definitely an outlier and probably also doesn't remember his younger days when he needed to get off a lot more than he does now.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:47 PM   #287
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Wtf is up with this kind of threads? Haven't people heard of USER ACCOUNTS? You know you set up your own account with a password and other people in the household have their own accounts. You can also have a guest account as well.

I just can't believe this sort of thing happens.
I think most old people just have a computer that auto logs in and everyone just uses whatever account it logs in as.
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:15 PM   #288
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I think pretty much all the time males would rather have sex with females in preference to masturbating
lolol nooooooo way. are you a virgin?
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Old 05-02-2010, 11:28 PM   #289
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Henry is definitely an outlier and probably also doesn't remember his younger days when he needed to get off a lot more than he does now.
I'm not that old and I remember quite well. If we are talking teenager then well I was a teenager but from first year university on I pretty much had the view I have now.

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I think most old people just have a computer that auto logs in and everyone just uses whatever account it logs in as.
I think if you live with someone having a password protected computer would likely be considered suspicious.
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:24 AM   #290
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Firefox + Private Browsing.
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:29 AM   #291
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Are you a Mormon?
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:27 AM   #292
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Lol make her give u head twice a week... Do nice things for her in exchange
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:44 AM   #293
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some women dont understand that practically 99% of men look at porn regularly and it has little to do with how good/bad the sex is with their partner.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:03 AM   #294
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some women dont understand that practically 99% of men look at porn regularly and it has little to do with how good/bad the sex is with their partner.
I think the problem most women have with it is that they are looking at other women naked and getting off to that.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:13 AM   #295
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Porn is cheating, just like romance novels
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:26 AM   #296
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Why do women marry insensitive pricks?

It's a bit convenient to categorically state that any behaviour that comes easily to you is "natural" and therefore authentic and desirable, why can't she understand this, all men do it, it's her fault anyway, Jesus what a crazy, stupid woman I'm hooked up with.

The self-servitude, as it were, is hard to overlook in a situation like this. The wife is hurt and feels inadequate -- really not very different than most of you would respond if you discovered your girl had been getting off to vast catalogues of other men. It just feels like ****. It's hilarious that so many people here are pretending this is difficult to understand.

From her perspective, OP has an entire second sex life she's not a part of. If it were me married to the OP, I would meet him halfway if he proposed going to a sex shop together, maybe doing sexy pictures, going to a strip club if that's not pushing it, and so on, because unless I've missed something it's pretty clear they don't do any of this. Basically it sucks to confirm you're not the centre of someone's sexual universe, but I'd be more willing to tolerate guest appearances if I felt secure that I was still the most important part of it.
I started to type a big meaninful response to ths post, then I realized how drunk I was, and that there's no room for another ******ed post in this thead.
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some women dont understand that practically 99% of men look at porn regularly and it has little to do with how good/bad the sex is with their partner.
I guess it depends on what you mean by look at porn. Every guy has seen porn and most guys will look at porn from time to time but no the description of guys looking at porn that people in OOT present is not normal. It makes sense given other deviations from the norm that the OOT demographic demonstrates but no most guys don't look at porn daily.

I'm actually curious if someone could explain how the frequent watching of porn alone is enjoyable other than as a way to fantasize?

If it is about fantasizing then by definition it is because your sex life is lacking since doing the thing you are fantasizing is obviously superior to just trying to convince your mind that it is happening while simulating it.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:41 AM   #298
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I started to type a big meaninful response to ths post, then I realized how drunk I was, and that there's no room for another ******ed post in this thead.
That's very thoughtful of you. My points stand, though, which were:

- It's stupid and childish to mindlessly put it all back on the wife as either imagining the problem, causing it, or ignoring its biologically ordained origin, therefore rendering it insurmountable even if he wanted to.

- The wife feels pretty much how most people would in this situation, which makes her behaviour just as natural and evolutionarily guided as his (since people keep calling on God or nature to pin all this porn on). The thrust of the main arguments seems to be that he's only human and deserving of unqualified consideration, but so is she. You people have typed extensively about his position, but so far I haven't seen much out of the group about what you think hers might be.

- Offered what I imagine to be her perspective and, from that perspective, a compromise for both of them. I agree she has to give a little, but maintain that he does as well.

Both parties want incompatible things. One wins totally or they both win/lose fifty per cent. In a situation like this, which ought not to tank a marriage but could with time, you try for the compromise first and then see where you stand.

When you're feeling better I'd be interested to hear how any of this falls under "******ed."
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Women are mostly incapable of separating sex from intimacy. Doesn't mean that men are similarly incapable!
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Old 05-03-2010, 09:33 AM   #300
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Women are mostly incapable of separating sex from intimacy. Doesn't mean that men are similarly incapable!
This only sounds true if you rely on stereotypes. Women absolutely can separate sex from intimacy, but given that automatically makes you a whore in popular opinion, we know better than to go talking about it. Between two people with mature attitudes about it, casual sex can be had very successfully.

Meanwhile, according to the relationship thread, responding to a guy's text message makes you his girlfriend.
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