Two Plus Two Poker Forums - The BBQ Thread

A bump and grunch....

Can anyone recommend a small smoker for the novice BBQ'er? Also, any good and reliable BBQ resources on the net? I mean I know there are a bunch out there but where do you like to go to learn techniques etc?

Weber Smokey Mountain. It is amazing. http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ There is an active forum in there where tons of good info is posted.

I think I am gonna make some pulled chicken today.

JackInDaCrak

04-11-2010 03:22 PM

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Gotta get the wsm. Buy quality, only stings once

guids

04-11-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MiloDanglers (Post 18117376)

Weber Smokey Mountain. It is amazing. http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ There is an active forum in there where tons of good info is posted.

I think I am gonna make some pulled chicken today.

yup WSM is the only way to go.

James T Kirk

04-11-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by amoeba (Post 16125749)

There's been a steak thread and a sushi thread and even a BBQ sauce thread so I figure why not do a BBQ thread devoted to all the top BBQ places around the country.

I live in Austin, Texas. Right in the middle of a 100 mile radius of land lovingly called by some locals "The Smoke Ring". The BBQ in Austin while good, is not mind blowing like some of the places in small Texas like Taylor or Lockhart or Luling or Lexington.

While folks outside Texas often bring up The Salt Lick, local foodies realize that Salt Lick is a mid tier BBQ place and their original popularity stemmed more from their atmosphere and their BYOB policy.

Texas BBQ is predominately known for Brisket and to a lesser extent Beef Ribs.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3540/...4f432ba305.jpg

That is a picture of Brisket , Beef rib, and sausage from Louie Mueller's in Taylor. One of the most venerable of central Texas BBQ joints.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/menuinprogress/...f740179f22.jpg

The above is a slice of brisket from Kreuz Market in Lockhart.

Brisket has a fatty end and a lean end, typically the fatty end is better tasting at least to me. The key requirement for a good piece of brisket at least for me is a deeply flavorful bark ie outer layer, followed by a layer of smoky fat about 1/3 inch in thickness followed by tender meat that does not require much chewing but doesn't fall in to shreds like stewed meat either. The Seasoning rub should be minimal, salt, Pepper, maybe some cayenne and the meat should be enjoyable without sauce. The brisket should glisten with a deep smoke ring in appearance and should have a pronounced smoky flavor.

more to come.... in the meanwhile, name some of your favorite bbq.

Damn, that OP looks bomb!

James T Kirk

04-11-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by midwestkc (Post 16178752)

And yes, burnt ends are the way that Jesus tells us he loves us.

Absolutely.

CBorders

04-11-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MiloDanglers (Post 18117376)

Weber Smokey Mountain. It is amazing. http://www.virtualweberbullet.com/ There is an active forum in there where tons of good info is posted.

I think I am gonna make some pulled chicken today.

Awesome. I ordered the 18". Pretty sure I'm going to make BBQ one of my weekend hobbies, I've always like good BBQ but never had any way of making it myself til now.

Mr_Soprano

07-15-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by x2ski (Post 16998268)

i don't know anything about smoking cheese, although it is cold-smoked
(right?)... but if you're smoking two completely separate things on one smoker in one day you're doing it wrong.

especially since i assume cold-smoked cheese is done at a super-low temp that'll take much longer than something done at 225 or so.

i can't wait to do me some cheese tho.

Sorry just saw this now.

I only had the cheese on for an hour of cold smoke.

You have to seal the cheese up really well and then let it sit for about 10 days and just let the smoke permeate the cheese. It turned out really good.

JackInDaCrak

08-07-2010 11:28 PM

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Competed in my first BBQ competition this weekend, BBQ at the Summit, in Dillon CO.

Here's some pron of my turn-in boxes:

Pork (sliced and pulled)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMG_2173.jpg

Brisket
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMG_2174.jpg

Ribs - did loinbacks instead of spares. Next time, spares.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMG_2172.jpg

Chicken

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMG_2170.jpg

Also cooked and sold some wings (honey/sriracha/apricot) among other things.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMG_2154.jpg

The team
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/IMG_2171.jpg

Chicken was good enough to earn us 5th place out of 75 teams. Cash prize! No calls in the other meats, which was too bad because I thought the pork was ****ing perfect.

charder30

08-12-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ike (Post 16977429)

I grew up in Syracuse. Dinosaur is one of the very few things I miss. I've never had better pulled pork.

Are there any good BBQ places in Vegas? So far the best I've been to is RUB at the Rio, which is not impressive.

Going to Dinosaur tonite! Will give a TR.

slamdunkpro

08-12-2010 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak (Post 20764694)

Competed in my first BBQ competition this weekend, BBQ at the Summit, in Dillon CO.
Here's some pron of my turn-in boxes:

Chicken - 6
Pork - 6
Ribs - 5
Brisket - 7

stabn

08-12-2010 08:07 PM

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Everything looks good but i'd eat the **** out of that chicken. Very nice.

Roy	08-12-2010 08:45 PM

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HOME MADE BACON TOOTHPICK?!

P Chippa

08-12-2010 09:17 PM

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Grunching this thread - I'll catch up soon.

I need some help.

I offered to cook some chicken and ribs for an outdoor event (tennis tourney) this Saturday. I will prep and smoke Friday night for service the next day at noon at a public park using a grill to finish everything. The guy running the show bought all the meat. I picked it up from his house a half hour ago, and he bought spare ribs with the brisket bone? still attached. Can I separate this myself somehow before I smoke it? After cooking? Should I bring it back to the meat market and ask them to cut off the non-rib part? Ideally, I would like to just cut the rack into 2-rib pieces after cooking but I think this cheap cut will be difficult to deal with. Help a brotha out please.

slamdunkpro

08-12-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by P Chippa (Post 20880025)

I picked it up from his house a half hour ago, and he bought spare ribs with the brisket bone? still attached. Can I separate this myself somehow before I smoke it?

cutting full spares down to St.Louis spares is pretty easy. Take a full slab and place it vertically with the brisket bone down on the cutting board then push straight down. The rack will flex at the cartilage joints. Take your largest sharp knife, roll the rack so that the "dish" faces up then cut across that line.
Here's a pretty good how to video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_MGM_RRTUQ

flashlight7878

08-12-2010 10:24 PM

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**** that noise don't you have a table saw at work?

P Chippa

08-12-2010 10:38 PM

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Thanks SDP.

We have several saws, but they are soaked with cutting fluid, oil, and metal chips.

boy09

08-12-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by timhardawyhatesu (Post 16137764)

amobea ever eat at City Market in Luling? I have to say of all the places ive tried that is by far my favorite.

+1 City Market is unbelievable. Also, pretty much all of the joints in Lockhart, TX are pretty outstanding. I've never tried it, but i've heard Snow's in Lexington is supposed to be the greatest thing ever, and judging from the picture that was posted earlier in the thread, the rumors may be true.

Awesome thread btw.

MikeyObviously

08-13-2010 06:25 PM

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I have a question about rating 75 different competitors in a BBQ contest. For it to be fair, it all has to be rated by the same panel correct? Meaning you have a panel of people that sample 75 platters?

Also, for San Francisco, there is only one BBQ place, and it is ****ing super legit, Da'Pitt BBQ

The Yelp reviews are poor (lol CA ppl)...they get tons of **** on there for being dirty, out of things, messing up orders/forgetting stuff, and being super stoned all the time...but it is excellent.

Skleice

08-13-2010 06:47 PM

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OMG I wanna slit my wrists. I want BBQ so bad but I live in mother****ing New England. :mad:

Anyway - I've done the Alton Brown ceramic smoker and it works great....insanely smokey pulled pork after 12 sweet hours of hickory. Getting the temp right can be a bit of a pain, but once u do it once it's ez.

Also - somebody gave me a bottle of Arthur Bryant's sauce and I hate it tbh. It's way too overpowering. The slightest bit of sauce takes over everything.

OnlyCardINeed

08-15-2010 02:08 PM

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Went to the BC BBQ Championships in Whistler a few weeks back, ate so much BBQ for a $5 donation was ridiculous. A group of friends and I (2 of whom are red seal chefs) are starting up a BBQ team to enter events in the Pacific Northwest. As well, we're going to design and build our own smoker (**** YEAH!)

Tomorrow though, going to get certified as a PNWBA (Pacific NorthWest Barbecue Association) Judge. $50 for the course and includes (obv) samples of everything to be judged. Epic Monday imo.

NoSoup4U

08-15-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonInDallas (Post 16128368)

Someone posted about aluminum foil ... sacrilege IMO. That turns your smoker into a steamer and at that point you might as well just use an oven or boil them.

I can tell you that every single successful competitive BBQ guy foils ribs these days. Most follow some variation of early smoking without, foiling and then finishing outside of the foil. It isn't old school, but virtually everyone has converted. Brisket and pork butt are still usually not foiled, but most everyone uses injection, which at one point got the same reaction as foiling.

NoSoup4U

08-15-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyObviously (Post 20899556)

There are as many different judging certifications and processes as there are contests, but the general method is that there are preliminary panels who pick the best from their "heat" and promote it to more experienced "final" judges. Nobody tastes everything.

There is a lot of variation in what is preferred from one location to another. For instance, at Memphis in May (probably the biggest single comp), the general belief is that their judges prefer a more sweet style, so that everyone slathers on the brown sugar and sprays constantly with apple juice. Texas comps prefer a more spice-centric approach, etc, etc.

ham on rye

08-15-2010 08:07 PM

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i've only ever used a charcoal smoker, this idea of turning a gas grill into a smoker is intriguing. i have a four-burner brinkman's gas grill with a rack over the main surface... if i set a single burner to low on the far left, set up a smoke pouch or similar above it, and put the meat on the upper right (or for something big like a pork butt, maybe just on the far right side), is that likely to work at all?

couple friends and i had a sauce competition with some pulled pork a few weeks ago and i took the unofficial vote with i guess what you would call a st. louis style homemade sauce vs. a buddy using melvin's out of the jug.

sledghammer

08-15-2010 08:12 PM

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It'll be hard to keep the temperature below 300. Might work if you add a water bowl in the middle to act as a heat sink.

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