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Baking a good loaf of Bread  (and everything else) Baking a good loaf of Bread  (and everything else)

08-16-2020 , 08:53 PM
The Kvass instructions for how long to let it ferment before filtering into bottles and putting in fridge range from 6 hours to 7 days. 8-12 hours is the most common but also seems wrong. I'll give it 4-5 days.
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08-16-2020 , 09:45 PM
Why you like wasting food? If you want strong flavor 12 hrs ok. Light flavor 7 hr. Filter it multiple layers of cloth into sterile jar and add disolved staryer or yeast honey raisin whatever gopniks like then cover the jar, not seal leave in dark room temp until 5 day. Then you ready to bottle, wait about 3 more day with full bottles at room temp, finally you will refridgerate about day 9 or 10 overall. Ok blyat you can thank me later. Remember sterile equipment dirty gopniks.
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08-16-2020 , 09:57 PM
Thanks, I knew those add yeast and ferment for 8-12 hour hippie recipes were full of ****. I sterilized the fermentation jar this afternoon!
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08-16-2020 , 10:19 PM
If you beets it's the same process. Steep chopped beets skin on all stem then follow above. Use discard beets to make borscht. Beet kvas known to be borscht starter.
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08-17-2020 , 01:58 AM
Greg, sorry, gotta agree with Hugo here. Slicing rye too early is a capital sin

ETA: And yes, use loaf pan. Shaping is completely different because of no gluten. Not supposed to be significant oven spring either.
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08-17-2020 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Flavor of bread is complex (I have no idea if that's true, but it's better than the last one and nutty with no sour after taste). Crust is really chewy, which would be fine if the bread rose, but since crust to crumb ratio is so high it's almost like eating jerky. The crumb is very moist. Not sure if I over-proofed (recipe says 45-50 minutes, I did a little over an hour waiting for oven to heat up) or it's just that there's no tension when shaping so it spreads out. If I do it again I will use a loaf pan until I can figure out how to shape a wet rye dough. Also sliced it too soon but needed to see if it at least tasted good after such a disappointing spring.



Here's what it's supposed to look like



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Ha sorry for the somewhat fail but now we have Kvass!
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08-18-2020 , 09:00 AM
My super sleeper pick

Hugo = Toothsayer
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08-18-2020 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 south
My super sleeper pick

Hugo = Toothsayer

Wouldn’t it more likely be a banned user?
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08-18-2020 , 01:45 PM
It is without doubt the banned poster formerly known as DoctorZangief formerly known as supafrey. He's an Ashkenazic Jew from Toronto via Chernobyl who eats too many cold cuts.
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08-18-2020 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
It is without doubt the banned poster formerly known as DoctorZangief formerly known as supafrey. He's an Ashkenazic Jew from Toronto via Chernobyl who eats too many cold cuts.
And he doesn't like North American Jewish Rye bread?
It was a worthy ban.
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08-19-2020 , 10:30 PM
Hello gopniks your intuition and bread making are not good. And why you bake only loaf of bread every time? I thought you like to eat hole from bubliki lol. Sushki is gopnik snack food blyat.
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08-21-2020 , 04:59 PM
Got a longer oval banneton and I think this shape will work better for slicing:


Loaf was 20% spelt instead of my usual 15 ww/5 rye. I think I like it better without the spelt.

About to bottle this:


Seems like it might end up like a light hefeweizen that's a little sweet. Kept enough of my fail rye to make another batch if this turns out to be good.
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08-21-2020 , 06:47 PM
Not beer baby gopniks can drink just use staryer no packages of yeast.
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08-21-2020 , 06:55 PM
Of course I just use starter and not commercial yeast. Doesn't mean it can't taste like beer.
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08-21-2020 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
It is without doubt the banned poster formerly known as DoctorZangief formerly known as supafrey. He's an Ashkenazic Jew from Toronto via Chernobyl who eats too many cold cuts.

I think I’ve found his YouTube. It’s nsfw.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=LuecOL9sQAw
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08-21-2020 , 08:17 PM
This is filth like you post resulta from baking white bread blyat. Jew think they invent bagels, but no gopniks this is not real history. Obwarzanek is from Krakow for hundreds years before. When jew was ban from making obwarzanki in Krakow 1600 they change name to bagel and sell in other places.
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08-21-2020 , 08:37 PM
If you guys want Hugo out, just let me know.
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08-21-2020 , 08:45 PM
I would vote yes, but I'm just a lurker/admirer. Hell, he contributes more to the thread than me, lol.
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08-21-2020 , 08:46 PM
You should decide blyat not the crowd unless you are indecisive cowardly. You can ban or not either way you still gopniks.

I will do you favor modnik, this is my last post ever. Contribute more already in 50 post than entire thing. Keep your white breads
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08-21-2020 , 09:27 PM
Glad I already got my kvass instructions
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08-21-2020 , 09:29 PM
So I’ve got 2 shaped Boules sitting in the fridge and it’s just come up that a good friend wants a sandwich loaf. If I toss my boule into a loaf pan, what happens?
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08-21-2020 , 09:45 PM
It will be shaped like a pan loaf then lol. Normally you'd let it proof in the pan but if its already shaped in a banneton I might try and just dump it out on a flat surface and do i quick shape into a loaf and put it in the pan and let it sit for an hour or so. Score it and bake away.
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08-22-2020 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
Wouldn’t it more likely be a banned user?


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Originally Posted by gregorio
It is without doubt the banned poster formerly known as DoctorZangief formerly known as supafrey. He's an Ashkenazic Jew from Toronto via Chernobyl who eats too many cold cuts.


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Originally Posted by 5 south
And he doesn't like North American Jewish Rye bread?
It was a worthy ban.


Wow not liking American style Jewish rye combined with an Ashkenazi who’s whole schtick is racist Slavic posts should be insta banned.
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08-22-2020 , 03:13 PM
I’ve had a couple of not great loaves lately so I went back to basics. Perfect loafs beginner loaf with a bit higher hydration.



Really happy with these. I’m going to try the same recipe but sub some AP for the bread flour. I like the texture of the lower protein flour better.
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08-22-2020 , 04:01 PM
Those look great, and way more practical for eating then the more and more open crumb I keep going for, but I just can't help myself. I want to try with some AP one day and see what happens.

But first I want to see if I can take the same dough and reliably get an open but usable crumb or an open and pretty crumb based on shaping alone. Right now I'm skipping the preshape and barely handling the dough after bulk, which gets it more open, and I think with preshaping and a tighter shaping with stitching I can get it more practical.

But my next attempt is going to be a 50:50 BF:WW with two separate doughs that I combine with lamination.
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