Automatics have been able to shift better than any human being for decades now

Dont gimp yourself, technology is great

Yeah but technology isn’t fun. I actually want a mid 80s boat automatic with the gear shift in the steering column.

Man like 20+ years ago when I was doing this shitty job at a warehouse between semesters. This shirtless Polack on a power Jack tried to sell me a mid 80s boat car from some old lady for like $500. Had to start it with a switchblade, really wish I bought that car, stupid.

I’m embarrassed to say I haven’t seen this. Not a Joh Wayne fan but this supposedly good.

Was a huge miss for me. It was the first John Wayne I saw, and I had an immediate reaction of "what's the big deal?"

I think my favorite western is Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Doesn't make it the best by any means. I just enjoy it from front to back.

I keep intending to go see Hole in the Wall sometime, but whenever I'm up there, it's late, I just want to get home, whatever. Keep making excuses not to turn off I-25.

Open Range was decent.

But if Lonesome Dove is going to get mentioned then I might as well state the obvious: the greatest western is Deadwood.

I have an automatic that has these up and down paddles on the steering wheel that you can shift with if you drop it into the gear below Drive. Haven't tried them yet, as I'm scared I'll grind my tranny, which is surely not an option, but I just don't want to learn essentially.

Drove sticks for many years. It becomes tiresome. That being said, if I had a hot rod on the side, I'd probably want it to be a stick with a cue ball handle. I forget the name, but it is basically a single bent bar coming out of the hump in the console area.

Would I be mocked if I said Maverick was exactly level with Tombstone on the Westerns tier?

EDIT: Also I remember watching The Salton Sea and thinking it was easily the best thing Val Kilmer ever did, but I don't actually remember anything about the movie so maybe that's not right?

"As I always say, if it wasn't for women, there wouldn't be any men."
"Well that's a stupid thing to say. If it wasn't for men, there wouldn't be any men either."

I enjoyed Maverick, but I don't even particularly think of it as a western. It's a comedy with a western theme.

It's well cast, and it's a clever remake of Seven Samurai.

The James Stewart / Anthony Mann Westerns of the early Fifties (Mann being the director), starting with Winchester 73, are all pretty good in terms of scenery, story, cinematography and acting. The Wild Bunch and Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here, both in 1969 and set at the end of 'the Wild West' just before the Great War, are quite interesting. Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, a comfier, wittier and more nostalgic view, came out the same year. That was pretty much the end of the Western cycle as such.

McCabe & Mrs Miller, and then Dirty Little Billy (about the making of Billy The Kid) appeared in 1971-2, emphasising the grubbiness of frontier life in a 'revisionist' way that Deadwood later copied. These films are considered to have been influenced by Vietnam and the general breakdown of the American myth.

Sunset, from 1988, set in 1920s LA, with Bruce Willis as cowboy actor Tom Mix and James Garner as the aged Wyatt Earp assisting him in a freelance murder investigation (of the kind that people often do in movies, but, I've noticed, never in real life), is surprisingly good fun. Earp really was still around at that time and Garner reprises the role from Sturges' grim and historically correct 1967 classic Hour Of The Gun, only this time for comedy purposes.

I drove manuals for my entire life up until 17 years ago. With the emergence of cell phones and an addiction to coffee, manuals became too cumbersome in city driving and little different from an automatic on the highway.

My current vehicle is the only auto I've had with the shifter paddles, and I have also found them unnecessary. The only exception has been wheeling up and down Mt Washington in NH using the paddles. Lotsa fun!

I had the same reaction to The Searchers. After all these years the main attraction of that movie is still Natalie Wood at age 15. If I had seen it at an earlier age, I probably would have grown up to be a pervert.

Lonesome Dove and Deadwood were both great. I'm guessing partially due to their not being confined to a two-hour length.

The movie or the TV series? The TV series was far above average for its time and still stands up. The movie was a huge disappointment to me, and I consider Tombstone to be much better. Not mocking; tastes is tastes.

Lonesome Dove and Deadwood are two different things, but if I had to choose I'd take

Interesting. And The Wild Bunch would be my number 2.

Speaking of contemporary westerns, I really enjoyed “3:10 to Yuma.” Ah, another remake. Forgot about that.

Thanks for mentioning these.

did i miss when Once Upon a Time in the West and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid were mentioned?

A manual is definitely more fun, but the problem is it's only more fun when you want driving to be fun, which is rarely the case. And if the occasion for the fun is performance, then as fun as it is to shift gears yourself, it's more fun to go faster. So there's pretty much no place for a manual anymore, unless youre specifically looking to tottle around in a manual.

if i'm going to buy a manual it's not so i can 'tottle around'.
and my occasion for fun is performance when i'm in control of it and shifting gears myself.
i agree it's more fun to go faster, but for me it's more fun to go faster when i'm in control of the sequence that gets to that speed.
a manual transmission in a high performance car is like a real world video game and i want to get the high score...you have to find the correct shifting sequence to get to that speed...that's the challenge.

So good. Ben Foster steals every scene he’s in.

Definitely mentioned Once Upon A Time. Oddly no mentions of Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid, someone mentioned Dirty Little Billy which is on my short list.

Anyone seen The Wild Bunch?

Wonder if Kubrick had done a Western

I laid on a dune, I looked at the sky
When the children were babies and played on the beach.

I saw Tonto approaching

was thinking of you when I made that post.
that may just be the greatest soundtrack of all time.