No, I don't think you did at all. The fact that Little Michelle comes on to you does not make it okay. Children sometimes (often) want things that are bad for them. That is why they have parents/caretakers that say "no" on their behalf.

Sexual abuse often feels physically good to the victim. It doesn't change the fact that it is abuse, or that the victim is not ready for it. It also can make dealing with the abuse more difficult psychologically because admitting it feels good makes the victim feel guilty.

What does her therapist think about the fact that you have sexual relations with LM? This is genuine curiosity, btw, because I can imagine an argument for doing it, but I'd really like to know what the therapist says.

This thread is amazing.

such a sick thread, such an interesting subject... thanks for doing this man, I dont have any questions for now but will def post them if/when they do come up

which one will be most likely to kill you in your sleep (or is it one you haven't met yet)?

tough to bail when you're in love, but when monster matty comes after you with a can of gas and zippo...well, good luck bro.

legal =/= relatively normal

I am speechless. Just, I, well...I don't know what to say.

You need to take an airplane far away. FAR away.

"Little Michelle noms on a book, Normal Michelle does this or that..."

You realize that girl looks like she's 13 years old, right?

Also, this picture is downright scary:

Thanks for doing this thread, OP, its turning out great.

She looks way younger than 23 is some of those pictures, its kind of frightening.

Noah, No, I by default expected her to be a redhead. Hair color racist ban?

I take it you're a believer now then?

I read most of this but a lot of it actually started to disgust and upset me so I had to stop.

1) Were you introduced to all of her personalities all at once or did they develop over time?

2) Are you a "normal" dude? What do you do for a living?


Also, has anyone else noticed that most tiny/small girls are ****ing bonkers?

OP - first, this is a very interesting thread, so thanks for it.

Pulling out this quote because I think this may be a very good read of the relationship dynamic:

I agree with alot of this, and have 2 questions around this idea:

Question 1 - have you carefully thought through / considered the notion that your being with her right now is actually hindering a potential full recovery? What do her therapists think about her being in an intense, romantic relationship at this stage?

Question 2 - I think it's pretty clear that you enjoy the part of the relationship where you take care of her. Save her. This isn't uncommon a driver for men and their attraction to women... but it's safe to say this is an extreme version of that impulse. My question is (and we haven't really heard alot about your own story) - why do you think this is for you?

I'm sorry - why is this "neat"? Just curious.

Thanks, OP!

-Al

I would also be interested to know what the therapist makes of you having sex with Michelle's nine-year-old self.

Even if Michelle Proper hadn't been molested, it seems a little bent to have sex with anyone who thinks they're a child.

How does this differ from molesting someone who is moderately ******ed?

****, if an actual nine-year-old came on to you, would you have sex with her? What do you think is a meaningful difference between having sex with a nine-year-old who knows she's nine, and a 23-year-old who only thinks she is?


You won't let her have ice cream for dinner, but you'll **** her?

do you want her to be "cured"? How would you feel about never meeting Little Michelle or Rebecca again?

I guess the cutting and seizures are intricately tied up with the multiple personalities, and it would be great to get rid of those, and that probably isn't possible as long as she has MPD/DID. But still, would you want her to go back to being just "Michelle" or would you prefer to see all the other personalities make peace with themselves but stick around?

OH COME ON LOOK AT HER YOU DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS GONNA BE CRAZY?

Wow, I didn't read that little blurb, but it just makes me think WTF. Maybe I just hate the way you worded that, but to me you really seem like you're her father/caretaker and not a boyfriend. You really speak about her as if she was a child.

The way you talk about her, I have a very hard time believing you can have an intense emotional and sexual relationship with her. Also, your reason for staying with her isn't even a reason! You're still avoiding the question.

very strange thread. will read more when I have time.

Thanks.

Probably both. Good luck.

I answered in this post where you asked the same thing.

Yeah man.

I don't think it works like that.

She'd probably think you were a f'ing ****** if you asked her if she was possessed, regardless of which personality you asked. Actually Little Michelle might just giggle and say you're silly since she doesn't cuss much.

Some of her doctors have dealt with similar cases, so that helps.

Thanks.

One time Lee.

I've never watched it (I don't think Michelle has either), but I've read some plot summaries, etc. Michelle's therapist also mentioned the show once while I was sitting in with them. We were talking about how Michelle's family and friends and strangers perceive the situation, and how that show was the closest fiction she had ever seen to how it really works out, but that it was still a stretch on a lot of aspects. Thanks for mentioning it, I think a lot of people in OOT would enjoy it from what I've heard/read.

I expected to get a lot of comments/questions about this particular subject since you're all a bunch of Internet pedo pervs, but I'll elaborate so hopefully I can just point people to this response when they ask in the future since my comments in this post haven't seemed to satisfy the group as a whole.

Sex with Little Michelle didn't happen until after she realized who she was and her real age, and even after it seemed like Michelle and Little Michelle had started to integrate. It was never like oh hey Chris Hansen time fapfapfap, if that makes sense.

I always was. I was just trying to expedite photos and videos.

Which, I would say, was effective.

I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post.

J/K, of course.

Anyway, something sure ain't right about this whole thing with these people.

I asked her before I started the thread if she would be okay with me doing it. She said she was fine with it, but that she just didn't want to participate.

It's probably worth noting that she didn't seem to believe it was MPD or DID until after Rebecca showed up. Then it sort of sunk in and she started to accept it.

I mentioned this in an earlier answer, but there's an interesting timeline that could have happened if it's more along the lines of DID. The DID timeline seems to be something like Little Michelle was probably created before she was molested, then Rebecca was probably created after. Rebecca #2 was later created to house Michelle's guilt, and Matilda created to house her anger.

The MPD timeline is probably similar in how it looks, but different in how it would have actually played out, etc.

So who the eff knows?

Amazing stuff. Just read this entire thread, even that one ****ing long epic post of yours, OP. 5*

I never expect anyone to be a redhead.

OP, can you describe what kind of therapy/treatment Michelle is getting in order to deal with this? All you've really mentioned is some one-on-one talks with a therapist/therapists - how often does she have these therapy sessions? Is she on any kind of medication?

Does the level of therapy that she's getting seem enough to you?

hi5. She's done pranks on me too of similar degree.

The cancer comparison isn't so far off. You might "waste" the rest of your life taking care of the person.

It might help to re-iterate that the attacks on me came very late in the game, and were very brief. Our struggle in the kitchen/bedroom areas were only because she was trying to hurt herself and I wasn't letting her. The car thing was a result of her not being able to control her impulses because of all of the emotion present when the personality first surfaced. These are the only times I've been in danger, even though it freaked me out for a little while after. I'm okay with that.

Thanks for the recommendation. I agree with the religious upbringing, but welcome to the south.

Well there's obviously more to it than that, but it's not a bad standard for comparison.

@bold, it's actually not that bad relative to the other MPD/DID stuff I've read and seen. But yeah, it's definitely not something to be taken lightly I think. There are some people I've seen especially in the lobby at her psychiatrist that I would have ran for the hills from.

@italics, I don't disagree, though I wouldn't necessarily say "get off". I've always enjoyed this side of the mentor/pupil or caretaker/caretakee (lol want to say mentor/mental) dynamic, and that's what's lead me to study to be a math teacher (not high school, hopefully lower college/university math). I really like helping people in general, though I'm probably going to get crucified ITT for saying it.

Pretty much depends who you ask from what I've seen. AFAIK, one is more about created alters and the other is more about parts of the self breaking apart. I could be wrong, and wouldn't doubt if I am. Maybe there's an ask a shrink thread in OOT somewhere?

I've thought about it some, especially after the Matilda incident. I'm pretty happy with my decision to stay.

Again, I wouldn't say "gets off", but I've thought a lot about this myself.

Do some of the personalities have abilities that the other's don't? Like can Little Michelle do things adults can do like drive and crap?

Chicks with multiple personalities are the nuts.

kids can crap