Or you could open your mind and try to grasp the concept that what would bother you doesn't bother everyone.

Cuckolding is actually a very common fetish/fantasy.

If it's not for you, that's fine, but there are plenty of people (men and women) who either get off on watching their partner with someone else or don't get significantly jealous and find that a twinge of discomfort is more than worth the price of admission for being a swinger or having an open relationship (and these are two different things).

this.

There are lots if things other people enjoy that you might not, just because something isn't considered socially acceptable in our culture doesn't make the people who enjoy it sick or uncaring. I used to not be able to understand how anyone could enjoy receiving/inflicting pain, then I got introduced to it and learned more and I really enjoy it. I previously also wouldn't have understood swinging but now that I have been more exposed to it and learned more about it I get it, even if it's not for me at this point.

This is one theory about why swingers do what they do.

"Further, when initiating sex, the man mate thrusts harder, deeper and longer, in efforts to remove the sperm of the other man and is biologically driven to have sex multiple times. While he may be unable to have sex more than once under usual circumstances, the cuckolded man is prone to repeated sexual efforts."
I thought all women enjoyed inflicting pain.

I masturbated as I read this thread and I'm not embarrassed.

I'm open to anyone webcamming while banging their wife while I rub one out.

Shoot me a pm.

The idea that another man banged your wife so hard that she is too sore to have sex with you is such a mind****. I would love to know the specifics of that conversation.

HIM: So, uh, shall we?
HER: What?
HIM: You know.
HER: Oh. No. I can't.
HIM: What's wrong?
HER: I'm really sore, honey.
HIM: Sore? What happened?
HER: Steve's very large penis.
HIM: What! Come on.
HER: I can still feel him.
HIM: Jesus.
HER: It's like he never pulled out of me.
HIM: You're messing with me.
HER: Let's just watch something tonight.
HIM: Yeah, but, can we clear things up first? You're saying ...
HER: No sex.
HIM: No sex.
HER: Because of Steve's penis.
HIM: Steve's actual penis?
HER: The ghost of Steve's penis.
HIM: Oh, the ghost.
HER: I'm sorry, honey. There'll be a vacancy again tomorrow.
HIM: Dude, seriously, this is some weird **** right now.

This thread feels very, very weird.

so so weird

LMAO

Lol, that's hilarious. No the actual conversation was less hilarious. The actual situation was actually a little different than I made it sound like. We hooked up with that couple and she didn't want to have sex the day before for some reason, then she got her period the next day and her periods last a fair bit of time. So when it ended I wanted to have sex with her, but she was saying that she didn't want to risk a yeast infection (she gets them super easily) so she couldn't that day. I then accused her of "saving herself" for Mr Playmate the week before and she said that I was being ridiculous. Which in hindsight I was.

But that guy does make her quite sore so that's why we don't really hook up with them anymore, despite their persistence.

Lol, nope neither of those hypotheses are correct. I know you're just trolling here, but I kind of wanted to clear something up. I'm not into cuckolding (maybe a little bit) that's why I wouldn't be into an MFM. What more turns me on is seeing my wife enjoying herself, but from a different perspective. I guess it's almost like I imagine it's me that's doing her, but at the same time I'm looking at her from a different perspective.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you were into cuckolding if you aren't (although it is relatively common), but I think you do a good job here of explaining why you do enjoy it, even if actually watching another guy **** your wife isn't of particular interest to you.

Did you ever think a mirror would achieve this?

Plz take judgments somewhere else. This thread is about the mysterious world of swinging.

Same rules for you when you're with another woman?

Really depends on the other couple and their comfort levels. Typically anal is something couples save for themselves. Some couples don't allow kissing. Which I've always found odd. Like sucking **** and getting plowed are somehow less intimate than kissing. However, we're respectful of their boundaries.

Obviously that's just one part of it. Experiencing different partners is another one. Being with another woman for my wife is another big one. Tough to achieve either of those with a mirror.

I wasn't judging, fwiw. I just thought people might find it funny. Clearly I was wrong

I do have a serious question though: You said it started out as your wife wanting to be with another woman? Did you guys fulfill that and then the swinging started coming naturally or was the swinging what you went to first? Like did you have to use AFF to find another woman and then you say the partners seeking partners stuff and then y'all were like, "yeah budday!" etc.

Well, we started with only wanting to have an MFF threesome. However it's quite hard to find a single female that is a) real b) not crazy and c) not ugly

We then started thinking about what it would be like to have a foursome and the idea turned us both on. We now really like it.

Seems like b) wouldn't really be all that mandatory.

Not until you find your cat in a pot of boiling oats on your stove, or crazy lady doesn't like the fact that you don't want to see her anymore, and she starts showing up at your workplace, or your wife's workplace.

You'd think so, but there are a lot of single chicks that say they are looking for couples, but really they're just looking for a boyfriend or girlfriend. With couples that are in committed relationships there's very little risk of that.

I agree, helping yourself to someones oats without permission is crazy & wrong!

nice thread

Is there typically a lot of dirty talk? What are some crazy things you've heard said?

Does your wife talk to you while she's getting it from the other guy?

Does the other guy ever say anything nasty to your wife? How would you feel if he started calling her a dirty whore, or demanding that she tell him how much bigger his **** is than yours? Anything like that ever happen?

Do you or your wife ever talk dirty about it afterwards when you're alone, like "**** me like you were ****ing so-and-so last night"?

Sorry if I missed this, but are you okay with your wife going down on the other guy with no condom, to completion?