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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88
also curious what you mean about this
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A bid just closed last night for a reshuffling of seat assignments and I’ll probably get displaced from my current seat
what is offered in exchange as part of the bid process?
Sorry about that ...a bit of jargon. The bidding process, which Delta calls an Advanced Entitlement or AE, is the company’s way of creating, maintaining and adjusting crew staffing for the various aircraft, bases and seats (Captain vs first officer).
In times of stagnation (e.g. the first years post 9/11), there is little movement and everyone maintains status quo. Contrast this with boom times: the company purchases 6 new Airbus 350 aircraft. This will require about 30-36 more captains and first officers. But pilots only change planes or upgrade as part of the bid process, so the company announces an AE.
This bid has a close date and after that date, the company awards the seats based on seniority. And it’s not just the pilots bidding for those new seats that are affected. Remember, the guy who gets awarded Captain of the 350 was previously in some other seat, perhaps a 767 Captain or a 777 FO. His moving creates a new vacancy for his old seat which has to be filled and so there is a cascading effect. I made captain of the 767 when someone else changed planes or retired.
Conversely to the boom times, we have bust times. After 9/11, and certainly now with COVID, the routes and number of aircraft has changed dramatically. So now there is another AE, eliminating seats. The bid closed three days ago and we’re waiting to see the effect. I had to put in my “standing bid” which details the seats I want in the order I prefer. My bid had a first choice of NYC/7ER/A, i.e. my current seat. But I know I won’t be able to hold that, so my next choices were for Captain of other aircraft types in NY, followed by Captain of ATL and DTW aircraft, followed by first officer of the 767, and so on.
To my knowledge, the company hasn’t announced furloughs yet but it’s inevitable. Readers of this thread may remember that I was furloughed from Delta from 3/2/02 to 6/2/05, during which time I returned to ACA and taught CRJ systems and then served as chief pilot for two and a half years. A furlough is a lay-off, but you retain your position on the seniority list which means you will be recalled to duty when staffing permits.
It’s an ugly situation for everyone. I’m certainly not happy about it and I could feel sorry for myself, but I’m on my way out anyway and there are millions of people in worse situations. The worst part for me is being stuck on the ground. I wanted to get as much flying in the 757 and 767 as I could in my last months. Now I feel like Henry Hill after being put into witness protection and being sent to live in Midwest suburbia: I’m just an average schnook.