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Old 07-11-2018, 12:41 AM   #8176
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Re: Ask me about being an airline pilot or flying in general

Looking at Google maps and another image I found, based on the angle of the photography I'd say he shot it with a drone.





Interesting take from Wikipedia:

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The airport is considered one of the most peculiarly perilous airports in the world[2] due to its location and its spectacular runway construction. The History Channel program Most Extreme Airports ranked it as the ninth most dangerous airport in the world, and the third most dangerous in Europe.[3] Pilots must undergo additional training to land at the airport.[4]


The rest of the article is pretty interesting about its construction.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:48 AM   #8177
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Looking at Google maps and another image I found, based on the angle of the photography I'd say he shot it with a drone.
Nice work. If this had been in the U.S., wouldn't there be restrictions on using drones near airports?
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:27 AM   #8178
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Yeah, it couldn't be a fixed position, the jet is moving over 100 mph. Nobody is that skilled with a zoom knob.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:31 AM   #8179
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There's no way that was filmed from a drone. It's a telephoto lens from the hills somewhere to the south-east of the runway (05).

There are restrictions on using drones near airports everywhere, and within controlled airspace. Looking at skyvector this was shot from within controlled airspace, not that that stops people from using drones.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:34 AM   #8180
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Go to Google maps and pinpoint the hill that has that height and angle on the runway.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:59 AM   #8181
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Shot from around R. do Cerrado da Fazenda, Gaula, Portugal

At 0:13 in the video you can see the tanks way behind the airport at 32.742251, -16.730494

And of course no one will strap 5kg telephoto lens on a drone. A DJI Phantom has a payload of what, 200g? How hard would it be to control a big zoom lens on a drone?
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:19 AM   #8182
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I understand your position but I don't see any land mass that would match up with the angle and height of the viewpoint in relation to the runway. The first scene of the video before it dissolves to the plane, there is a very smooth slow floating of the camera. Not the kind of movement you would see on a tripod or fluid head mount, but yes to a drone. The tracking of the plane appears to be drone like.
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Old 07-11-2018, 03:00 AM   #8183
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And I could be completely wrong not knowing the exact height of around R. do Cerrado da Fazenda, Gaula. I've been playing around with the viewpoint angles in Earth and maps and its tough to line that up the same as he had in the video but an interesting exercise.

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Old 07-11-2018, 03:10 AM   #8184
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The telephoto lens makes it look as though the vantage point is to the right and high, since the runway is so squashed. It's just an illusion.

This looks like just the start of the runway, but based on the markings, we're actually looking at more than half:



This line shows the tanks at 0:13 in the distance, just to the left of the end of the runway, lined up with the vantage point:



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Old 07-11-2018, 09:01 AM   #8185
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You win. I found the photographer on Facebook and asked. "Zona elevada, posição fixa, não tenho drone!"
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:48 PM   #8186
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Bah! He just told you that so he wouldn't get in trouble for operating a drone where he shouldn't.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:12 AM   #8187
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Yeah, it couldn't be a fixed position, the jet is moving over 100 mph. Nobody is that skilled with a zoom knob.
How fast is the drone moving?
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Old 07-12-2018, 02:27 PM   #8188
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More than zero mph.
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:10 AM   #8189
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Re: Ask me about being an airline pilot or flying in general

Is U.S. Facing A Serious Shortage of Airline Pilots?

https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/0...airline-pilots

If this is, indeed, a classic case of "low supply and high demand," I have difficulty understanding why the normal functioning of labor markets won't [eventually] solve this problem. If there is a true "low supply" of qualified pilots, common sense would dictate that the salaries of these pilots should rise dramatically. If there is a true pilot shortage, airlines will have no choice but to raise pilot salaries - either that or they start rationing flights! (Passenger ticket prices should also rise to offset the increased cost of scarce pilot labor.) As pilot salaries rise, the increasing compensation should have the effect of attracting more and more "new" pilots. Eventually, the higher salaries will attract enough new pilots to effect a stable equilibrium between supply and demand. I wonder if the real problem is not a "shortage" of qualified pilots, but a shortage of airlines willing to pay pilots a competitive wage?

Maybe this is an apples and oranges comparison, but I've noticed that there is no shortage of professional baseball players, professional football players, professional basketball players, professional hockey players, and even "professional" poker players! It's easy to understand why there is no shortage of professional athletes. I don't know exact numbers, but I suspect the average salary of NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL players is [at least] in the six figures! Paying those kind of wages, it's easy to see why there is no shortage of professional athletes.

EDIT: Browsing the reader comments appended to the Slashdot post, it appears there are "other factors" I hadn't considered ...

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