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Old 08-14-2017, 11:50 AM   #7776
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I'm pretty sure much of that has been discussed in this thread if you can find it with the search tool.
yeah but there's like 2000 mentions of "sully" in this thread so searching is pretty hard
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:38 PM   #7777
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:30 PM   #7778
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W0X0F (or anyone, really):

How much of the famous "miracle on the hudson" was really a miracle?

there's a couple of ways to break this down:

1) if that same scenario plays out 1000 times (same conditions, same crew, etc) how many times is Sully able to successfully "land" that plane in the river and get everyone out without fatalities? I.e. did sully just get insanely lucky or was this a pretty simple operation?

(bonus question: what DO you call it when you land in the water? Like, if you have a sea plane and that's what you're SUPPOSED to do, is it still called "landing"?)

2) same question but for "replacement level pilot"? Is Sully just really good or could anyone have done what he did?

3) how many pilots would have made the decision to try the river?
When you land on the water in an emergency it's called Ditching the aircraft.

Sully did what he was trained to do, but in my opinion a lot of things fell together to make it a smooth operation.

Decisions are always very critical and for Sully to be aware of the fact that he wasn't going to make Teterboro (a corporate jet airport about 7 miles away), he committed the aircraft to the river.

The miracle is the Hudson River was at the right place at the right time, because if he wasn't able to land there, there's really no where else to land. There's a highway, Route 80, right below him, but it always has very heavy traffic and there are wires everywhere.

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Old 08-15-2017, 05:10 PM   #7779
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Old 08-17-2017, 01:12 PM   #7780
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With all the discussion in this thread about runway naming and magnetic north, I thought this article about an airport changing their runway numbers would be interesting to people.

Pilots, check your bearings: Boeing Field catches up with Earth’s magnetic field
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:33 PM   #7781
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Does the airport authority shift the ILS and runway lighting to correspond to magnetic variation when they change the runway numbers, or do they shift them as necessary each year?
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:39 PM   #7782
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Does the airport authority shift the ILS and runway lighting to correspond to magnetic variation when they change the runway numbers, or do they shift them as necessary each year?
The ILS and lighting systems are physically aligned with the runway centerline. The installation could be made with no knowledge of the the runway's orientation with respect to magnetic North (or true North for that matter). No adjustment to these installations is required, though the ILS is flight checked periodically to ensure that it is still properly aligned (i.e. that nothing has knocked it out of alignment, or somehow disturbed the installation).
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Old 08-22-2017, 01:19 AM   #7783
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Old video of a training session with a well known instructor had me holding my breath...



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Old 08-22-2017, 06:03 AM   #7784
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I just wanted it on the record that I was kidding about the ILS thing...I guess I have to get better at "humor".

I'm under the understanding that pilots only get paid for the time they're actually flying - not for time they're sitting and waiting for planes. How does it work (pay-wise) if you're scheduled a last leg from A to B, but delays put you past your max allowable duty day and you don't end up flying the last leg?
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:37 AM   #7785
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Old video of a training session with a well known instructor had me holding my breath...
You flew with Kershner? I started out with his books and was hooked by them.
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:44 AM   #7786
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I just wanted it on the record that I was kidding about the ILS thing...I guess I have to get better at "humor".
...or I have to get better at perceiving it.

I've just always assumed that questions in this thread are just what they appear to be. It's the old "there are no stupid questions" approach.

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I'm under the understanding that pilots only get paid for the time they're actually flying - not for time they're sitting and waiting for planes. How does it work (pay-wise) if you're scheduled a last leg from A to B, but delays put you past your max allowable duty day and you don't end up flying the last leg?
It depends on the contract your pilot group has with your airline, but for the vast majority of airlines the pilots get paid for the number of hours they were scheduled to fly or the number of hours they actually flew, whichever is greater.
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Old 08-22-2017, 09:23 AM   #7787
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You flew with Kershner? I started out with his books and was hooked by them.
No, just watching the video. The spoiler was the video's description
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Old 08-27-2017, 11:00 PM   #7788
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I hope you don't get tired of hearing how helpful and kind you are. This thread was linked in a workplace blog post (since you cannot avoid flying anymore and be taken seriously in your position - the blog is Ask a Manager, should you wonder) and I have since recommended it to dozens of other people. I have no idea how many fearful flyers you have helped but it has to be a LOT. I will never love flying but I better suck it up because I have to do it for work and because my family is 1700 miles away...but your patience, professionalism and reassurance that your colleagues are generally as trustworthy as you are has made it better. Safe travels, good health (so you can get back where you belong!) and many thanks.

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Old 08-28-2017, 08:49 PM   #7789
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I hope you don't get tired of hearing how helpful and kind you are.
Thanks for the kind words. It's very gratifying to hear that I might have helped someone overcome a fear of flying.

I've been out of the cockpit since late January, 2016 ... my longest absence from flying since I was 21 years old. I will see my oncologist a week from tomorrow and find out the results of my latest CT scan. If it's good, I think I have a good shot at getting back in the air.
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Old 08-29-2017, 12:41 AM   #7790
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Hey I am 13 and hoping to be a pilot, Im from Canada and was wondering what helps you get hired better, The certain school you go to or the amount of hour that you have? Also any tips or something that i could read such as kershner books you mentioned

Thank you!
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:07 PM   #7791
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Hey I am 13 and hoping to be a pilot, Im from Canada and was wondering what helps you get hired better, The certain school you go to or the amount of hour that you have? Also any tips or something that i could read such as kershner books you mentioned

Thank you!
If you're going the civilian route, attending a recognized flying school that offers a degree program will be your best bet. The ones that immediately come to mind are Embry-Riddle, University of North Dakota, Purdue and Florida Institute of Technology. While you're at one of these schools, doing an internship at an airline can often give you that foot in the door. As for stuff to read, try anything by these authors: Kershner, Ernest K. Gann (Fate is the Hunter is my #1 favorite aviation book), Bob Buck.

I remember when I was first learning to fly, I loved reading Flying magazine's monthly feature called I Learned About Flying From That, first person accounts of interesting (often life threatening) situations. I would go to the local library and retrieve a year's worth of Flying magazine at a time and devour these articles. I worked my way back through all the issues they had, back to the 1950s. Remember, this was pre-internet so it was the only way to find them. Today, you can find most (maybe all?) of them with a Google search and there is also a book with that title which is an anthology of these stories.
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:53 PM   #7792
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I remember when I was first learning to fly, I loved reading Flying magazine's monthly feature called I Learned About Flying From That, first person accounts of interesting (often life threatening) situations. I would go to the local library and retrieve a year's worth of Flying magazine at a time and devour these articles.
Me too! Except my library threw them out after awhile. When I had money I bought the new issue when it came out. When I was poor I just read the I Learned About Flying From That piece in the grocery store and then put it back.

What about Civil Air Patrol? Used to be it would give you a leg up. No idea if Canada has an equivalent.

Don't forget to check community colleges too. A semi-local community college here had an aviation program where you could learn to fly for much less than a flight school. They had A&P classes too.
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Old 08-29-2017, 11:21 PM   #7793
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What about Civil Air Patrol? Used to be it would give you a leg up. No idea if Canada has an equivalent.

Don't forget to check community colleges too. A semi-local community college here had an aviation program where you could learn to fly for much less than a flight school. They had A&P classes too.
Yes Canada has something called air cadets and I think it is Similar to civil air patrol. I am from Calgary so I am not sure if we have semi local community collages, I known there are 2 traditional schools and 1 university. I will be sure to check out thoughts books.

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Another question So I am thinking I would probably go to the university because they have a degree. Is there an advantage in an aviation degree and getting to learn to fly there or getting a different degree saving up money doing that other job then..... I am basically sitting here wondering if I should delete that paragraph because you explained that to me last response.....

So what if I do go the university degree way, I would still need more flight hours after i am done the training and got the degree? Would I go and get a cfi licence after to gain flight hours? Jeez us looking back at your paragraph I just googled what an internship is.....

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What type of math do most pilots do, civil and military. I must admit I'm not great at my time Tabel and need to work on them
Say I went the military way what you you recommend
What if I am not Abel to get an internship
sorry for the nonsense above
Also I can't believe you have been doing this forum thing for almost 8 years now and thanks for the help!
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Just did a quick google and found this
http://www.flyingmag.com/tags/i-lear...ying-from-that
Wasn't sure if you wanted to look at some old story's so it's here

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Old 08-29-2017, 11:30 PM   #7794
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If you're in Calgary, you might want to look into the Aviation Diploma at Mount Royal University
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:46 AM   #7795
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Canadian military is a spectacular way to get a degree, license and flight hours. I know several people that have gone that route - some stay for life, some fly commercially (for both Canadian and international airlines).
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:27 AM   #7796
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If you're in Calgary, you might want to look into the Aviation Diploma at Mount Royal University

Yep i was looking at that website when i was typing up that last paragraph. They have this advanced option that "transferable to the prestigious degree program at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University." ???
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:51 AM   #7797
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Took my first flight in a small plane recently. Took an air tour of Glacier National Park. Four of us and the pilot. This is the plane we had.



I've been in small helicopters before but this was very different. Take off and landing were very smooth. In fact I hardly noticed either. In the air it didn't feel any different than driving down a road, maybe a little smoother (it was really calm that day, no wind at all). It was definitely one of the best vacation experiences I've ever had. I can see why pilots love to fly.
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Old 08-30-2017, 02:02 PM   #7798
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Canadian military is a spectacular way to get a degree, license and flight hours. I know several people that have gone that route - some stay for life, some fly commercially (for both Canadian and international airlines).
People might shoot at you in the Chair Force. They don't in college.
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Old 08-30-2017, 02:06 PM   #7799
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Took my first flight in a small plane recently. Took an air tour of Glacier National Park. Four of us and the pilot. This is the plane we had.



I've been in small helicopters before but this was very different. Take off and landing were very smooth. In fact I hardly noticed either. In the air it didn't feel any different than driving down a road, maybe a little smoother (it was really calm that day, no wind at all). It was definitely one of the best vacation experiences I've ever had. I can see why pilots love to fly.
Wow, a taildragger. Must be pretty old.

The love of flying is one thing I never got. The only reason I wanted to fly was transportation - to be able to get somewhere fast.
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People might shoot at you in the Chair Force. They don't in college.
It is possible you wont fly fighter jets
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