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Originally Posted by jmakin
I have said since post #1 of this exchange that they clearly state you do not have to tip your drivers. You said otherwise
I did not say otherwise, I said that it is not ****ty of them. They very clearly promote and provide a service where tipping is not a part of it. So telling people they don't have to tip is not ****ty, it's what drivers sign up for. If there rates were 3x what they are, would you complain about the no tipping policy? Your real argument here is simply that the rate they charge for the service without tipping is not one that works out as a good deal for the drivers. There's no shortage of ****ty behavior by them towards drivers, but this isn't one of those things. It's simply part of their offering that makes the deal less profitable and a ****ty job for lots of drivers.
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My argument is them actively encouraging their riders not to tip drivers (on top of an abysmally poor wage) makes them a ****ty company. you can feel free to disagree/agree with that point but nothing you said in the last paragraph makes me wrong really.
What if McDonald's had a FAQ that explained that you don't have to tip their employees? Would that be a ****ty thing for them to do? No, it would just be explaining one of the reasons why it is a ****ty low wage job. Uber is not a tipped service like taxis, it's a non-tipped service like fast food.