No worries bro, that video sounds disgusting, your description is enough for me. Smh, people are nuts.

Thx for the info.

The cases all seem related not only that a murder was done, but there seems an abnormal build-up of jealousy and then the outpouring of relief that comes once that object of jealousy is removed. It's just supposition I guess, but Amanda could've been jealous of Meredith, plus she probably wanted to completely control/pacify Rafaelle not unlike Karla Holmoka did with Bernardo.

Not to mention Rafaelle had been dominated his whole life by his father, and probably had a mental submissive/aggressive thing going on, which the evidence of the knives and animal porn suggest.

It isn'r supposition. The bar owner stated that Amanda was visibly jealous of Meredith.

Control maybe. Raf had very limited sexual so would have been the submissive in this relationship.

I read somewhere that Raf also use to write about extreme sex but I have not been able to find that reference again. Am I remembering wrong or did he blog / post on a site of that nature?

Oh, and also the fact that Guede was said to be enamored by Knox as well. Maybe when he showed overt interest in Meredith (possibly also at the urging of Rafaelle), Knox got upset and jealous, and things escalated. Rafaelle himself could've implied that he thought Meredith was beautiful, further enraging Amanda. As seen with both Casey Anthony, and Karla Homolka, it's possible that they have such a desire to be the center of attention they're willing to do anything to restore it, but lacking the intelligence/ability/empathy to go about it any other way.

On the Website Watching Karla Homolka, where I guess they've been trying to track her since her release, someone internet detective'd her online screen name

http://watchingkarlahomolka.yuku.com...E-ADDED?page=1

edit: she ended up marrying her Lawyer's brother and has kids

so a bunch of euros and brits and candadians and a self hating murcin collectively and fervently attack any implication of knox's innocent? ya, i dont need to even read the facts of this case to know shes obv not guilty.

"Truth does not cease to be true because it is found among infidels"

"Do not seek the truth by means of men; find first the truth and then you will recognize those who follow it"

Al-Ghazali, 1082 AD

You are part of what is wrong with America.

So when someone disagrees with your opinion is this your response? Pretty simple to see who the idiot here is.

Victor is on an unsuccessful campaign to troll every other forum in 2p2, don't pay much heed.

See Phil, this is why this statement is counter productive - it gives them an excuse to ignore everything else that's been presented and just focus on the fact that you are a big fat meanie.

I knew as soon as I saw your post this was going to be the outcome.

I'll focus on those things when I'm more sober or is that too much trouble for you? I was just skimming the thread to see what I missed today. That rubbed me the wrong way. Shows ignorance which basically makes his opinion even less relevant in my book. Carry on with whatever you were saying though, I'm sure you think it matters.

Ugh, not this. Just an ignorant post, especially for you.

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well i guess we can cross jmill off the skype conspiracy list amirite suzzler? or can we ....

Lol I should say something about skype just to start the histrionics...

You're a pretty smart dude generally, but unless you were just joking and I didn't realize it that's a brutal post.

jmill, do you understand the concept of trolling? He's trying to get a rise out of someone itt. He did the same thing in the H&F monthly thread. But then here he switched to me because I'm potentially spoiling his fun. It's really that simple.

Soon will come some other skype or astroturfing reference, or other umad type post, possibly calling in backup at some point.

lol drama itt

Look back through this thread for the picture. It shows the bathroom where much of the clean up happened, where multiple spots of mixed blood / mixed blood DNA was found (Knox, Kercher), where the bloody footprint was, where kercher blood was found on the light switch and where the feaces were not found or ANY trace of Guede. It shows the picture after treatment with luminol and clearly shows a huge clean up had occurred.

Here is the first one i found on google. Not going to search for you, but there are better and bigger pictures if you care enough. In any case, denying that a huge clean up occurred is ridiculous. This is not disputable.

See, it is because you have no idea of the important details of this case that is so annoying. You are just the latest person to come to the tread who wont accept the evidence, but there are people who have posted a lot previously to answer the exact questions you have and you dont seem interested in actually reading their answers.

I dont really understand your quoted section above, are you saying that you now think she was strangled? Despite you apparently reading the link I gave, you seemed to miss this, a few paragraphs below your quote:

I mean, its the cause of death for gods sake. Read the damn reports!

Just read the 2 reports linked earlier. Im sure people here dont want to spend their lives pointing out glaring and obvious mistakes that have been covered a hundred times and could be avoided by the person on the other side of the discussion just reading the reports.

One other thing that's been really bugging me - Color Up - are you talking preflop with that AA instinct, or post?

(lol unintentional Columbo references)

Goater,

I continued reading the passage and got to the point that you eloquently highlighted. I have some thoughts but obv feel a little funny having posted the clip of asphyxiation, since she basically drowned on her own blood.

But hey, I'm a bit reckless on here and I'm bound to make an ass of myself, LOL.

Still reading and digesting before I post further questions.

I'm pretty sure that photo you linked to has almost no relevancy, at least the one of the bathroom. There's fingerprint dust everywhere. That's not a luminol photo at all. The site the photo is hosted by has this to say " there was no evidence of bleach; 2) no evidence of smudge marks with luminol staining"... But that's cool... no need to respond just yet. I'll probably be reading up for the next day or two before I post more thoughts. I want to sift through everything just so that I don't make myself look more like an ass.

At this point, any reference to serial killers or similarities, I withdraw them at this time. I don't see any hallmarks of one of those; not to say that the person(s) may not have been one or have become one in the future.... but I do not see anything in my limited knowledge that would lead me to conclude it. This is probably a first killing, and IMO the duvet over the body is indication of familiarity with the victim (but that part is not an educated opinion - signatures are a whole different realm and I'm not comfortable interpreting them)

Suzzer... preflop.
Now I'm in the post flop action and trying to figure out if I'm good or not, LOL

So you needed 'instinct' to know your AA was good preflop?

I think you are correct that the picture is not a luminol one. I have made that mistake before - thanks for pointing it out. Is it red fingerprint powder though, or some other chemical?

I didnt read a word on the site that hosted the picture and have no idea what it was and how reliable/unreliable it was re discussion of the case. I should have pointed that out more clearly. I simply linked to the first image google showed me.

Ummmm no. That photo was leaked by the police to the British press without any explanation. The pink you see in that photo is from a chemical that when applied turns that color. Get your facts straight. The only thing found in the bathroom were a few drops of blood and the footprint on the mat. You think they are going to go through all the trouble of cleaning that entire bathroom and miss a few obvious drops? Go look up the video of the actual bathroom as police saw it and don't bring that tabloid **** up.