Everyone knows it's all fun and games until someone gets raped and murdered.

in general there's a huge difference in world view / approach towards logical analysis between the guilt and no-guilt crowds

revots, we need to understand your definition of the word "facts". Do you mean "facts" as in what was admitted as evidence by the court? Or do you mean "facts" that are your opinions based on what you've read?

indeed

You should just delete your post SK, no one thinks you have any logic at all. You're doing your side a disservice...oh wait...that would be impossible.

And yet you still can't spell Meredith's surname.

That site didn't exist when Henry made the mega-post.

oh man you're just JOHNNY ON THE SPOT with spelling corrections. Good job!

The fake break-in? Totally a fact, because glass on top of clothes. Plus no sign of anyone scaling that wall or coming in through the window or even stealing anything except Filomena's make-up kit. And there can be few things less useful to a black man than a white woman's make-up kit. (But a white woman who'd incurred an incriminating scratch on her throat overnight and didn't have her own make-up kit might be interested. And Rudy Guede's DNA wasn't found in that room, but Amanda Knox's, mixed with the victim's in a Luminol spot on the floor, certainly was.)

In addition, of course, the scene in Meredith's room was staged. We know this because of the imprint of the bra strap in dried blood on the tile floor, and the associated outlines of the right shoulder and the head, close up by the closet, an appreciable distance from where the body was actually found nearer the middle of the room. So we know that the body lay in its original position for some time and was only then moved and, necessarily, posed.

(And by then Rudy Guede was dancing at the Domus in front of numerous witnesses, so it wasn't him.)

From the same evidence, and the V-shaped blood-spray pattern on the chest, we also know that the bra was only removed then, much later, as part of the staging, and definitively not during the actual attack. The intent, self-evidently, was to suggest a crime quite different from the one that had actually occurred. (And in particular to disguise the involvement of a female assailant and to conceal the acquaintance between killers and victim -- a pattern commonly found in staged crime scenes.)

Well, I think to sickos like Sollecito, the rape is the fun and games, the murder is perhaps unintended.

Shoutout though for your A+ posting in this thread, it's a work of art.

more random capital letters. why?

WHY INDEED

SK:

What's your actual theory of the murder? That Guede did it alone?

yes

that's dumb as **** and makes no sense

right right right, as opposed to the super sensible prosecution's theory of the crime

Sounds silly and probably isn't (at least 100%) accurate, but at least there isn't any glaring evidence to contradict it.

It isn't binary. How does Guede stab her 47 times by himself? Is it Guede that moves her body after she is dead?

With a knife? Did Guede move the body? Sure, why not. Although the evidence for the body having been moved at all seems quite weak.

so this is a major point that the defense likes to make. obviously it is quite rare (just as are Italian burglary-sex assault-homicides.) But I think there are plenty of plausible narratives that aren't so dramatic.

for example, Guede is with them, they do drugs (or Guede is with Meredith already as he said). they show up, things get heated, Guede is holding her down, and Sollecito pulls out a knife (remember he's into weird rape/knife porn). he stabs her. maybe Amanda freaks out and went in the other room? Guede flees after she dies and Sollecito tells Amanda that she's in too deep already and needs to help him clean up. She panics and does. then the next day she is freaking out and lies to her family. It's totally plausible to me that a scared 20 year old girl abroad in Italy doesn't just come clean to her family. Now she's living a lie but how can she tell her family what actually happened?

totally plausible, doesn't involve Knox getting super down with a rape fantasy, etc. Of course, it's possible that she did get down with that. But it doesn't need to have happened for her to have been there. Yet Knox defenders will passionately deny the even slightest possibility that she was present.

you, are an idiot

Kercher was certainly moved, whether it was as she was dying or after she was dead seems ambiguous.

She suffered injuries from restraint as well as stab wounds from both the right and the left, and had virtually no defensive wounds. That strikes me as really difficult to happen without multiple attackers.

Her door was also locked, although footprints that appear to be Guede's led straight out.

The evidence just doesn't seem to fit Guede doing this alone.

additionally, it's totally plausible to me that Knox sees herself as innocent. caught up in things she didn't understand or want. and if she didn't hold the weapon, or wasn't in the room, her line up to this point isn't far fetched at all.