That's not why she was convicted. It's just the impression given by the filmmakers who happen to be longtime fanboys of hers.

OK bro, so what was her motive?

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Interesting article about how many people could have been so sure that Knox was guilty based on such flimsy evidence.

Indeed.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-change-minds/

I'm surprised at you swallowing that nonsense. In addition to a whole tranche of evidence implicating her in the murder, she admitted to being there at the time, and even the obviously got-at court of cassation (this is Italy, remember) reached that conclusion, while no one really believes the murder could have been carried out by a single person. Go figure.

One dude can't murder one 20 year old girl with a knife? Huh.

But OK, why in the world would Knox murder her roommate. Makes zero sense.

I mean, this literally seems to be the theories that the prosecution had for the case

Ludicrous.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ito-italy-case

You're no 239 bruh

You've not had much involvement in murder cases, have you? Motive is often obscure or, as the Italians put it, trivial. Only Knox and her two sidekicks know for sure and they aren't telling, except that Guede mentions an angry argument after Meredith found Knox had stolen her rent money, probably for drugs.

Knox had had a casual sexual hook-up with a drug dealer (called 'Cristiano' in her ghosted memoir, but actually Federico Martini) and remained in regular phone contact with another member of his dealer network called Lorenzo, her phone records forming evidence in the conviction of both men plus a third. She was running through rather a lot of money. Her date-of-the-week Sollecito, an admitted drug user, had spent his whole monthly allowance and run out of money, and his father wouldn't sub him any more precisely because of his known drug habit. Both Knox and Sollecito would claim they 'couldn't remember' because of drug use. Their hair tests, taken on arrest, did not give definitive indications, but drugs take a week to ten days to show up in the hair, so the test can't tell us about the period when the crime was committed.

Guede was known to students in Perugia as someone who could get you drugs. He wasn't a dealer, but he knew the dealers' pitches and he could get you stuff. (This from Dr Leila Schneps, author of Math On Trial, whose son-in-law knew Guede at that time -- and Patrick Lumumba, the man falsely blamed by Knox.)

But there are other elements. Knox kept Sollecito's number on her phone under the alias 'Jason', apparently her nickname for him. Given that he is a knife fetishist, and he posed for that 'fancy dress' picture showing him in a CSI suit made of toilet paper, holding a meat cleaver and a container of acid or solvent like a serial killer out to commit the perfect murder, 'Jason' probably refers to Jason Voorhees of the Friday the 13th films. Sollecito of course posted on social media about his frustration and his wish for 'bigger thrills which will surprise me.' He collected rather extreme horror manga and had been thrown out of his college hall of residence because of his extreme porn DVD collection.

In any case, rivalry and enmity between college-age females has been shown as a motive before now, and Knox might have resented Meredith because (a) she was more popular, (b) she was more attractive, (c) she was mixed-race, (d) she was British, (e) she'd got off with Giacomo Silenzi, a boy Knox had had her eye on, (f) Patrick Lumumba liked her better than Knox and had invited her to make cocktails in his bar because she would bring in her crowd of agreeable friends, whereas he found Knox a fairly useless waitress and was on the point of sacking her, and (g) Meredith and Knox had a blazing row a few days before the murder, as Meredith told her sister Stephanie without saying what it was about, and Knox has carefully never mentioned that row at all.

Just so you know, after the case was remanded for retrial on issues, the theory (and finding of that court) was that it was a dispute over stolen rent money (400 eu).

Even the acquittal finds the murder was perpetrated by more than one person and that Knox was present. However, the conviction was overturned for lack of evidence that AK and RS were among those others that killed Meredith.

I mean, it is what it is, but any "documentary" on the case should not leave that out. If those findings are not true, I'd like to find out why not. That should be explored.

AK apparently is already addressing this in the media by stating she "lied" to police at first when she told them she was present when the murder happened. I did not watch the video of her explaining this, so I don't know how she tries to explain that away.

Amanda Knox like held down and murdered her roommate while she was being raped by some rando guy because of a disupte...over rent money? That's hardcore man.

The victim was not being raped.

If you say so, hard to keep track of all the prosecution's wild theories.

Especially if you don't know them.

But still, Knox and two other dudes like held her down and murdered her? Because of rent money? Why would the black dude agree to this, "yo bro I know I don't know you at all, but ima murder this girl over like rent money and **** lol. We could use a hand, you down?"

Seems legit!

SK already being a top 5 worst poster in this thread is impressive. Please carry on as long as you want.

There is a lot more to it than that. You can read up on it if you want. The issue you are discussing has been covered a lot, especially in this thread. There is also a lot of forensic evidence and expert reports (including those.feom the defendants). Of all things really not in doubt is that the victim was killed by more than one person.

By the way, the guy "who didn't know her" (and thus would be unlikely to kill her as the prosecution asserts) is the one guy who's conviction stood.

Some murders happen because of a chain of events that seems incredible in hindsight, and sometimes things escalate because unplanned things happen.

Your alternative here is to believe that the "burglary" wasn't faked and the murder was carried out by Guede and a couple of unknown others in place of Knox (who admitted being there at the time and gave descriptions of what she "heard") and Sollecito.

WTF?

239 was almost certainly a paid shill for the Knox family and has no need to post here any more.

i like how you say 'WTF?' as if it's a proven fact that a poster with a 2006 registration date was a paid shill. i would occasionally throw those accusations around with everyone else just to wind him up, but i never really believed it. much more likely is that he was just a very weird person. besides, wasn't he posting here way after he had any reason to be?

SK, just cringe worthy stuff.

Watched the newest netflix doc, was decent but so obviously bias. Crazy the amount of evidence they left out. It's like they decided to straddle the line of appearing to take both sides in to consideration, just enough to rope in another army of SK followers.

My question is whether they can ever be retried. Are they off the hook for good now? Or is there any further series of appeals, etc.

It's final.

As a movie, way too short for anyone with no knowledge of the case.

I do know that Knox family did a decent job of painting the Italian justice system as flawed. We are used to in America for trials to be tried and moved more rapidly.

Her behavior, viewing the film only, was "off", but she was a 20-year old foreigner feeling like she was the center of the universe. Immature with power is a deadly combo.

I thought that the prosecutor saying he felt like a religious prophet was in poor taste. There should be some humility to putting people away for many years. Unfortunately the people attracted to these positions often desire the most attention.

It still happens every day at real papers. Just not at gossip rags like The Daily Mail.

just finished the Netflix doc. i didn't know anything about the case prior to watching this and so here is my verdict for Amanda Knox:

guilty


motive: i don't care

why i think she's guilty: her on camera talking in the doc gave me a strong guilty feeling.



and also, this will be my one and only post in this thread so don't mind me. j just wanted to get my view out there.