Yikes no, isolation for a life sentence is unthinkably bad. You're much better off with the rapings.

This would be an awesome sig if they had sigs on this board.

good fk him he deserved it

I didn't see the life without parole anywhere in articles, just as a comment on one of the articles. Can anyone confirm this?

I can't imagine how much pain their victims suffered, this case really makes me sick. I truly hope the no parole part is correct.

Nor does it stop racist cold hearted conservatives in the criminal justice system from executing innocent minorities. Yawn.

If OP's intent was to get a lot of strangers on the internet to hate on the idiot with the bat while thinking OP is a douche, well played.


If not.....

I'm fairly confident he has the opportunity for parole. The judge doesn't mention 'no parole' during the sentencing.

a) this thread has nothing to do with capital punishment
b) your statement is a strong argument against capital punishment, so I am confused about the bleeding heart liberal bit. If you are convinced that we simply don't know whether or not it works, you have to be against it.

^ +1

If you're uncertain as to whether CP is or isn't a deterrent why the F would you be for it.

FWIW I'm dead set against CP and I'm not a "bleeding heard liberal" I just don't believe anyone has the right to take another persons life, that includes the government.

This "EYE FOR AN EYE WEEE WANT BLLOOOOD" isn't justice it's just primative ****ing vengeance.

Also there is no way this kid isn't getting out in like 5 years. Unless he snaps and plucks up the courage to shank his various rapists.

the assertion is that some crimes are deserving of death, regardless of whether it will act as a deterrent for others

I know, but in specific regard to the deterrent argument, saying we don't know isn't any better than if it actually was proven it's not a deterrent.

Its a 100% deterrent against a repeat offense. Regular prison obviously isnt a deterrent either.


except for all the murderers out there who you feel should get a lesser punishment than their crime

tell that to yourself when its someone you care about and not a random homeless guy and you can stop pretending to be the god of justice and righteousness

One of the comments on the link I posted said he is a model prisoner, really wants to turn his life around and wants to be a pastor.

I imagine finding god and wanting to become a pastor is appealing to the typical white 55 year old tea party member that sits on parole boards.

I'm so sick of this "oh well what if it was someone you care about" crap. Like that's an actual valid argument. Obviously anyone in that position of distress isn't capable of making these kind of decisions (including me)

Would I want someone dead if they killed, say, a family member? Of course, I'd want to rip his ****ing throat out. That doesn't mean I'm in the right or that it's right for the government to be able to decide who lives and who dies.

Deterrence isn't the only principle that matters when considering what to do with criminals.

Further, I wasn't taking a position on CP so much as responding to what someone was taught in a class. Social sciences do a lot of damage their pathetically low standards.

The murderer thought he was right in the commission of his crime. That, or he didn't care and just wanted the person dead for whatever reason.

There certainly are instances where CP is warranted. For example, a cold, calculating serial killer. Recidivism is nearly 100%. There is close to no chance that this person will reintegrate normally into society. Another example is the genocidal war criminal who has ordered the killings of tends of thousands, and has participated in several killings themselves. You're telling me you're going to choose to have tax dollars paying for this person's imprisonment, instead of the firing range and a summary burial? If so, you're (goes to everyone, as well) too nice (read: naive).

Not to disagree with your message, but you're incorrect regarding tax dollars. It is more expensive to execute a CP (pun intended) than a life sentence without parole.

Tough to believe that this thread is still going, given that the entire thing is based on a fallacy (OP announced the sentence was for beating up a homeless guy), and the responses are one-sided. What is there left to talk about?

so this

I'm well aware - appeal court and all of that legal jazz. I'm talking about very clear cut cases where the trial is merely a formality to the eventual execution.

As per the US justice system, it's horribly broken and mangled anyway. Like when known crime bosses go on multiple trials, it's almost like a joke. Yeah, of course, he didn't personally shoot those three guys and bury them out in the desert; his paid goons did that.

I'm all for the 'No Escape' scenario. Get a small semi self-sustaining island, spend millions on security. Let them do what they want. If they want to beat someone with a tree branch, sure... go for it.

That place has a name: Australia.

how often does this actually happen? seems to me like it's something you see on tv more than anything.