This is an age old question, and the battle is quite epic as depicted in this thread by TJcombo.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/62...s-come-105902/

8+ people sacrificing themselves to best an ape is a hypothetical bridge to far in the current hypothetical. Humans gonna get haped.

lol'd when I got to this


also, decided microbet is my favorite poster

just spent 15 minutes reading about bears, they are awesome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodiak_bear

nice avatar u fn nit...i lold

whats the lifespan of a gorilla? could the body builders just wait it out?

actually no. Neanderthals were smarter, stronger etc than **** sapiens. the reason **** sapiens became dominant was that they had a better supply of food thanks to their superior running skillz.

True but in the wild most animals will avoid a fight where the prospect of serious injury is likely unless they are starving even if they could win. A 550lb male lion might take a 500lb gorilla but I don't think it would necessarily be easy and obviously the lion has a huge offensive advantage when compared with with even the most jacked up human. A 1500lb bear the size of a jeep cherokee is going to **** up anything short of a hippo, elephant or maybe a big bull cape buffalo. Cool picture of massive grizzly http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/O...2/Grizzly.html . I guess my main point is that even the largest and strongest unarmed humans are both incapabale of dealing sufficient damage, even collectively, and also ridiculously fragile in comparison to other similarly sized predators that their chances of succeeding are low. All of that is without taking into account the psychological impact of seeing people being effectively slaughtered in front of them will have on their overall morale and strategy.

grizzly vs* 12 chuck norris

grizzly wins in 1, 2 or 5 secs?

No, Neanderthals were not smarter.

Neanderthals had bigger brains, which does not correlate to being more intelligent. Brian structure (specifically, the frontal and temporal lobes) is where the importance lays. They had a smaller frontal lobe, and due to body size, needed double the caloric intake that **** sapiens required. They could communicate due to having hyoid bone, but apparently could not articulate a wide vocabulary.

So you are wrong, but nice try though.

The neanderthal technology also basically stangnated for hundreds of thousands of years. Their, likely, lack of complex communication and relative isolation amongst small 2-3 family sized groups would have prevented the spread of ideas and information that has allowed **** sapiens to advance as we have. Enough derailing, I want to see a silverback take on 12 powerlifters.

Some of the ape attack stories have made me question the gorilla's chances a bit. Sure having your face gnawed off by a chimp is no cup of tea, BUT two things:

1) These people survived the attacks! I imagine that if a real death machine like a tiger actually attacks you and gets you on the ground, you are basically dead immediately.

2) If the ape's default to gnawing on your face when things get serious, that's a major tactical liability. The correct strategy for the gorilla is to dart in, incapacitate people, and get out before being overwhelmed. If the gorilla is going to voluntarily jump on one guy, then that gives the other 11 guys a straightforward window to jump on top of it.

I'm still not sure the humans win, because there's the issue of Step 1: 11 guys jump on gorilla, Step 2: ????, Step 3: profit, but it's closer than I originally thought. A gorilla-robot controlled by a human would take it in a walk, obviously.

bobman, those stories are about chimps not gorillas.

I have been laughing since I started reading this thread but this sent me over the top, good stuff ITT.

3 BATS +12 DUDES+ COIN FLIP IMO

Suddenly more interested in this.

Heavily dependent on what kind of 10yr. olds... tough kids or pussies? As in are they scared of you or will they really attack you? Grab a dozen "tough" 10yr. olds and you're toast unless you have a decent amount of fighting experience.

800 pound guy
one doctor
two heavy hitters
one occultist

gg no re

level?

Comparing 12 BB vs a gorilla to 12 ten or twelve year old kids vs a standard adult is beyond ridiculous. Adult humans don't have as large a comparative strength advantage, nor are they going to eat any of the kids faces off.

I think we should solve this by sending the top 12 H&F posters against a gorilla.

I wipe my ass with 12 year-olds. 14 year-olds if I've had chili.

I worry about you, emo gaylord.

lol love these threads.

People are wanking over gorillas far too much though. Sorry nature lovers but one gorilla vs 12 large humans is going to get ****ed up, just be happy he'll take a few out in the process

Well hurr dee durr and all that, but I think we all get that when I said "humans are the best distance runners on the planet" I meant that as a species they have the best distance runners on the planet. Not that the powerlifters are going to be running marathons with the gorilla to tire it out.

When people throw around claims like obviously the gorilla has superior stamina it seems a teensy bit important to realize that as a species humans are known to blow away most other species in terms of endurance. And since the powerlifters are presumably human it may be relevant when comparing their supposed stamina with the gorilla.

So, again I ask, how are you coming to the conclusion that the 12 humans will tire before the gorilla when the gorilla is fighting 12 members of the species that is known for its superior endurance?

And also, when I said the powerlifters bench half a ton it's probably not as ridiculous as you think because there are powerlifters who bench... err half a ton. I didn't qualify it with "without a bench shirt" so I don't know what you're getting all fussy about. It seems you think I was using bench shirt numbers as a measure of functional strength for 12 powerlifters vs. a silver back gorilla in a fight to the death in a cage. And you have calculated that a 1000 pound bench press could perhaps do enough damage but a 700 pound bench press definitely couldn't unless they all ran marathons first.

Well, I wasn't doing that, but thanks for trying. I was pointing out they are really strong (they can bench 1000 pounds! Approximately! With a bench shirt!) and there are twelve of them.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, a single person killed a Grizzly without weapons.

If this is even remotely true I think it's safe to assume we can lol at all those who think it is impossible for 12 roided out powerlifters to kill a gorilla throwing vegetables at them as he prepares for a fight to the death. They probably even have enough energy after the fight to run a marathon while benching half a ton (but they better wear their bench shirts. If not that would just be ridiculous).