I think it is ridiculous when acbarone, sandmanness and me give positive review, to doubt for its quality

I didnt read the new updated book, but i will start reading it again as soon as the author sent me. I will write a full review again

I am a student of acbarone and when i asked should i read the book of zerosum he told me definitely. I would like to see the same book for 18 man and something for hypers 9 and 6 seperately. Even though i dont play them i would buy them all

Hey GTL:

I'll ship you the latest version. I think you probably already have it though if it has the updated HU section and be about 238 pages. The most recent version is simply DRM free and printable.

zero

I printed the book and finally i can enjoy reading with my bare hands. Extremely well written book

I seriously cant understand how can people judge bad this book. Imo best poker book ever for the games as played today (i refer to 9 man)

First part - Early game

Opening ranges

The author suggest to types of play. A tight one and a looser one. I think his thinking about tight is too tight. For example he suggests open t20 utg AK+ TT+ which imo is a mistake because we are loosing value folding 99 AQ AJs. I like that he suggests a looser style of play. I was dissapointed because he didnt really went into it. For example he says if the players are tight we can open wider f.e. Q9s from co, but he doesnt mention how wider. Can we open 87s? what about 35s? Furthemore i was dissapointed that he never discussed open limp. It is not that these opening ranges are right or wrong but we dont maximaze our equity if we dont play them

Betting patterns

I remember an example that he says if we are about to bet and commit in the flop, it is better to shove, which i believe it is not the most EV move. If we want to crush we need to learn the hard way. I dont mean loose money. I mean to steam our brain. It is better to b/c or b/f than shove/fold.

I was extremely impressed from his depth analysis for betting in early levels. He discuss in detail when to bet 3 streets, when to check. Honestly i was really suprised and i didnt expect to see this in a book. I read them very very briefly without care to think about them but they were at least 5 pages discussing these concepts. I believe that it is really important to learn these things assuming the reader is a beginner or breakeven player

BvB

Always nice to refresh how we should play bvb and why we should do this. Another excellent analysis from the author which was really amuzing to see. When the reader understands why, he can apply these things in his game unconsiously

Any beginner,breakeven, slightly loosing player can add at least 0.5% of Roi reading only this chapter. It may not seem much BUT in 2.5-3k games (which should be the volume in stts per month in this levels) with avg bi 10$ is 150$. Possibly up to 1% if the player fully understand the concepts and slightly change them

Review from mid blind level coming soon

have to push mine back a week sorry guys will get it done next week just busy witn sne grind + more then expected school stuff

The comment about LBP is pretty astute. It is a very tight approach designed to keep people learning SNGs for the first time out of trouble. I have found that most of my students tend to be too loose rather than too tight so I may have gone a bit too far to the tight side.

The problem loosening these ranges up a bit is that it also makes it a bit harder to commit to a top pair hand OOP. This makes the postflop advice a little less black and white as well. I didn't feel comfortable recommending much wider of a strategy but did hope that the discussion of the looser style would at least get people thinking about it as a future development item.

One of the ways that I actually teach a stronger low blind game is to get beginners all the way through the material to HU then focus a lot on adjustment HU. This actually really also helps to then circle around and start discussing using the same strategies in low blinds since it mostly focuses on exploiting player types. However, I am actually working on a DTB video that addresses a looser style of play for LBP using the Holdem Resources calculator to motivate the ranges, since in talking to other mid-stakes regs, this is a pretty important topic these days.

Also the idea of when to raise/fold vs raise/call postflop is under consideration for a future discussion. I am just trying to figure out a good solution that appeals to both slightly advanced players while at the same time not over-complicating things for beginners. I may choose to make it a supplemental video rather than a book addition to keep the book clean while addressing the topics more fully as an advanced supplement.

Nice comments overall though.

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Mid Blind Chapter review:

This is the best part of the book as i remember. Author does a marvelous job analyzing how ranges are working and how players are playing from each position. I was impressed with his analyze why it is bad to push AJo utg. When we understand why then it will become a second nature

Author teach how we should adjust ranges and why we should do this. This is extremely helpful because when we need to change formats we can work our sheets alone. In the end he gives the proper pushing/calling ranges that we should use. Only this chart worth the cost of the book in my opinion even though i think the shortstack ranges are a little bit tight aka we should take a bigger negative edge even in earlier positions. Nothing tragic

I was impressed with the detailed analyzation of the ''magic'' resteal range which i agree in general. All three parts shove/call/resteal are very good explained. I think that r/f r/c plays could be discussed more in depth. The problem is the size of the book imo and it is difficult to discuss this in detail without giving another 20-25 pages at least. There are ton of things to do

I was dissapointed that i didnt see a stealing chapter which is extremely crucial in sngs. For example we have 15bbs in HJ with QTs and the remaining players have 8-10bbs. I think is no brainer a raise to steal the blinds (regarding the opponents). Again i say in my opinion a stealing chapter is crucial. It was one leak of mine and i saw huge improvement in my game flaw while i started stealing more (not shoving just raising)

Again this chapter is the best thing that a beginner or breakeven or slightly winning player can learn. Trully amazing and if the stealing method worked, it will be nutz. If a player is loosing,breakeven,beginner,or 1% roi then it can definitely add 2% roi in his game. With eyes closed

High blind play review soon

so what books are recommended for SnG newbs?

I think if you read this you must easily have a 4-5% roi in 7$ and 2-2.5% in 15$

Not sure I really agree here. I think that people of this caliber could certainly benefit from the info in my book, but I don't think that's a requirement.

I really intended this book to be a representation of the concepts I teach, even to complete beginners. They typically pick this stuff up really fast and I have had students who were motivated but knew almost nothing about SNG's master the basic concepts by the end of a 5 week lesson package.

A lot of these are also concepts I included in the DTB-ABC SNG Series and there a lot of completely new players to SNG's telling me that they were able to get the concepts and use them almost immediately.

zero

So why you dont agree?

Maybe I misunderstood. The question before your last post had asked about what would be good for new players. I thought you were saying that it would be better to have a little experience under your belt before reading my book and that it would not be a good fit for a new player?

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I said that if you read that book you can definitely achieve these roi numbers playing 9 man. Where i say all the other things you tell? I think this is the only book that someone could read and expect profit. All others are outdated

OH! I totally get what you are saying. Thanks!

zero

I am a fan of Greg's book so don't take this comment as a knock on the book.... it's not, and I think it is a great package.

Not that there are many great sng books, but I am highly skeptical of someone saying fundamental sng strategy from a few years ago is outdated. The Basic strategy has not changed since Eric Drache, gave poker the concept of the satellite in 1983.

More players understand that fundamental strategy now. Anyone should be very skeptical of someone posting older material is outdated without a ton of evidence to back that statement up.

Sure adjustments need to be made based on how the tables currently playing, but to say the past fundamental sound material is outdated means you are a fan of a "style of play" or a "formula" approach that is currently profitable, but dose not mean older material is outdated.

i crushed at online games thanks to this book.

Playing?

About halfway through,

Thanks again for agreeing to review.

zero

when are you lowering the price?

It is not likely to happen soon. Sales have been relatively strong and are actually increasing rather than trailing off. I believe this justifies that the price point is competitive and provides strong value. I think it also in some way proves that the information is credible as word spreads about the book.

Regards,
zero

Fair point. I actually didn't see the price, but saw some people complain about it earlier. What is the price now? Is it an Ebook or paperback only? Is the ebook cheaper if one exists? Sorry for skim reading your thread, you seem like one of the good guys.

Thanks

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Am a total Beginner when it comes to SNGs, so was wondering would you recommend me on reading Colin Moshman's Sit n Go Strategy book FIRST(to get the fundamentals of SNGs) and then your crushing online sit n gos ebook/videos

and I assume(correct me if am wrong) they compliment one another so would you recommend either reading both at same time or just reading your ebook.

I don't really know how to respond to this question since at best my opinion about what to buy best is qualitative and could be viewed as extremely biased. I believe both are good products and present strong value at their price point. I don't think you would go wrong with eventually owning both.

Best Regards,
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The videos that Greg provides would be excellent for a new player to compliment his book. Colin Moshman produces excellent video's as well but obviously those are not included with Sit n Go Strategy.

If you serious about beating the format buy both.

I can tell you this Greg's package would have been like "gold" to me when I first started playing sng's several years ago. Players are better today then they were then but I still think this package would be a great investment for a beginner.