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Old 05-18-2016, 09:20 AM   #76
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Re: Review: Peter 'Carroters' Clarke - The Grinder's Manual

Thanks For the reply. Can u update on here once a kindle version is available. What's the rough cost of that version £££
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:12 PM   #77
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?? wasn't this thread much longer a couple of days ago
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:27 PM   #78
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?? wasn't this thread much longer a couple of days ago
I think they changed how many posts show per page by default, so it's likely the same amount of posts, just less pages.
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:52 PM   #79
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Ah! That would explain it
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Old 05-25-2016, 06:32 AM   #80
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Hi guys thanks for your patience. The kindle version is set for release this Sunday 29th May after the final edits and checks. Have a look on the amazon kindle store from evening GMT time. I'll be back here with a link also when it's live.

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Old 05-25-2016, 02:20 PM   #81
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Great. I look forward to the Kindle version!
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Old 06-04-2016, 02:14 PM   #82
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Hi Pete, I just saw your book un kindle unlimited and snapped it.
Also I'd like to know whether you plan to make a paperback edition...
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:59 AM   #83
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Also I'd like to know whether you plan to make a paperback edition...
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:47 AM   #84
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Re: Review: Peter 'Carroters' Clarke - The Grinder's Manual

Hi Everyone:

I just bought this book and hope to start reading it this week. As I slowly work through it, I'll let everyone know what I think.

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Old 06-06-2016, 01:12 PM   #85
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Hi Everyone:

I just bought this book and hope to start reading it this week. As I slowly work through it, I'll let everyone know what I think.

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How many poker books do you read these days Mason?
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Old 06-06-2016, 06:16 PM   #86
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How many poker books do you read these days Mason?
Hi Husker:

I still do a lot of reading, but it's very slow and meticulous, and occasionally a book gets read more than once. In addition, I'll sometimes take detailed notes which slows it down even more. And the bad books tend to be read more slowly since there are more notes to take.

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Old 06-06-2016, 07:10 PM   #87
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Can you be specific? For this statement to be true there must be some things that you are saying which are very different from what is written in Harrington on Online Cash Games; 6-Max No-Limit Hold 'em, and this implies that there must be some hands where your advice on how to play them must also be different from what the Harrington Online book states. Can you give an example or two?

You need to understand that you're on another publisher's website and when you make statements that imply that what we publish and sell is out of date you're implying that our products should not be purchased. Now I'm not saying that you're wrong and perhaps you're correct, but you really need to be specific.

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Hi Mason,

i'd personally disregard Harrington's advice if it were under the premise of specific "how to play QJ from the SB", simply because his competitors have played and analyzed this situation a million times and actually use it in practise while afaik Harrington is not 12-tabling online cash games nor ever had any outstanding results (online).

While that might sound harsh, i am absolutely a big fan of his work at the same time. There are a few things that i have learnt from reading him many years ago that i still teach my own students every single time (he once said to at least account a 10% chance that people will do something totally random).

I changed that to 5-10%, but it's incredible how wise and rich his advice in regards to the human element is. It has made myself and students incredible amounts of money.
It's so simple and there are a lot of golden nuggets of wisdom hidden in the books of all-time-champs like him and Doyle.

In other words, it depends by which metrics we judge somebody in order to put things into perspective.

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OP is a very talented critique which whom i rarely agree, not based on theory, but on practice.
He is like the great theoretical physicist, but he is not an engineer and will only judge based on his (limited) set of tools.
If you only have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. That can be a blessing and a curse at the same time.
He will save you from Charlatans, but also kill all imagination and vision to reach a new level of understanding.

Those are the same people who say the Internet is useless, that we can never fly etc... and often they were right.

In practise:

We need better and more metrics to evaluate publications.

a) Evergreen Wisdom would be one category where Harrington would do very well

b) Pragmatic data analytics of "what works" and produces results is another category (the one i believe to be the best in)

c) Theoretical concepts (this is where Sklansky is the go-to guy)


If we look at this, we can see that:


a) Culture/Religion/Ideas

b) Business

c) Science


I have not read the book in question, but if we evaluate publications based on those 3 metrics, we can come to a better understanding of what value is provided without having to call Harrington BAD or outdated.
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:01 AM   #88
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And the bad books tend to be read more slowly since there are more notes to take.

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I guess I'll hope for a speedy response then :-D
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:02 AM   #89
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Hi Pete, I just saw your book un kindle unlimited and snapped it.
Also I'd like to know whether you plan to make a paperback edition...
Hey thanks for the question. Currently there is no set plan for a paper edtiion. I plan on doing more publicity over the next few weeks. If I think it will be worthwhile releasing the book in paper format then I certainly will. I'll keep you guys updated. Hope you enjoy the book.
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Old 06-10-2016, 03:47 PM   #90
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Hi Husker:

I still do a lot of reading, but it's very slow and meticulous, and occasionally a book gets read more than once. In addition, I'll sometimes take detailed notes which slows it down even more. And the bad books tend to be read more slowly since there are more notes to take.

Best wishes,
Mason
hhhmmm - this could get interesting, but lets keep it clean and no hitting below the belt.

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Old 06-13-2016, 08:42 PM   #91
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Re: Review: Peter 'Carroters' Clarke - The Grinder's Manual

Where are all the reviews ?
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:44 PM   #92
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Where are all the reviews ?
I'm halfway through the book atm. Would rather write a review once I'm done.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:05 AM   #93
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Yeah more reviews please guys! I'm very happy to come on here and engage with any feedback postitive or negative as well as answer more questions about the book.
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:56 PM   #94
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Re: Review: Peter 'Carroters' Clarke - The Grinder's Manual

Just finished the book, really liked it.
The content is presented in a logical order.
It's very dense and to really be able to apply all the concepts while playing will require far more work than just reading and taking notes.

I noticed some minor inconsistencies, some of the CC ranges used in the 3bet chapter seem to be slightly different than the once presented in the CC chapter.

I also enjoyed Carroters podcast and I think it's a great supplement to the book.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:02 AM   #95
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Just finished the book, really liked it.
The content is presented in a logical order.
It's very dense and to really be able to apply all the concepts while playing will require far more work than just reading and taking notes.

I noticed some minor inconsistencies, some of the CC ranges used in the 3bet chapter seem to be slightly different than the once presented in the CC chapter.

I also enjoyed Carroters podcast and I think it's a great supplement to the book.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree that in order to be able to digest and apply anything near to a reasonable amount of The Grinder's Manual, a lot of study and work within your own database on the concepts covered is required. This isn't a book that can be breezed through cover to cover!

Thank you for alerting me to possibile inconsistencies. I'll investigate these.
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Old 06-16-2016, 05:10 PM   #96
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+1 on a paper edition. I think when it comes to poker books, there are many of us that enjoy adding new additions to a physical collection. Really hope it makes sense financially for you to go paper.
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:24 PM   #97
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+1 on a paper edition.
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Old 06-22-2016, 02:31 AM   #98
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Hi Everyone:

Just a quick update. I've read the first three chapters and so far so good.

Best wishes,
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Old 06-22-2016, 02:48 AM   #99
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Wow ...
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:34 AM   #100
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3 chapters in 16 days, is that fast or slow?
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