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Originally Posted by lkr95
Is "The Grinders Manual" still up to date and describes a strong strategy for todays online 6 max cash games?
I suspect that depends what stakes you play and where.
It's less solver oriented than a lot of the poker banter these days.
Carroters himself now talks more about solvers than he did at the time he was writing TGM. I asked him about this here:
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Listening to the podcasts, I've noticed you talk a lot more on about game theory and solver-type thinking than in older episodes. Have you changed you mind on how much it's important or do you think the games have changed?
In TGM you have:
The Offensive/Defensive Rule
When Hero has a good idea whether or not he is likely to meet either RE on a call or RFE on a bluff, he should play his range offensively/exploitatively post-flop and look at the maths from his own perspective. When Hero is unsure whether or not he is likely to meet either RE on call or RFE on a bluff, he should play his range defensively/balanced post-flop and look at the maths from Villain's perspective.
You still think that's correct, right?
He replied:
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Originally Posted by Carroters
Absolutely. This is always going to be super solid advice.
I talk more about GTO based thoughts now because 100 Hands is a more advanced text that is far more GTO conscious. I find exploitative play a little more basic and easy to understand, plus I covered it very fully in TGM. 100 Hands focuses on both offensive and defensive thought processes and aboslutely adheres to the quoted rule.
I've more or less gone the opposite direction to most people. I started in poker by writing myself what would now be called a solver to teach myself how to play, then moved to more exploitative play, so I welcome the focus on that in TGM. TGM does include how to play without reads (i.e. the defensive part of the rule quoted above) - personally I've just never sat a table where I didn't have at least some kind of guess at a player pool read and I'm not interested in seeking such tables out, so I'm pretty happy that TGM doesn't skimp on the exploitative stuff and am going to reread it again this summer.
Edit: I wouldn't say it describes a strategy as much as a way of thinking. That's what makes it less likely to go out of date.
Last edited by LektorAJ; 02-27-2020 at 11:38 AM.
