Would this book help with MTTs? I've played about 300 MTTs online and played a good bit of NL2 and NL4 cash games. I have no software set up or anything and I feel like I have major improvement in me with the right book/coach. My main interest is MTTs though so I'm guessing this book won't be much help? If so can anyone point me in the right direction? Carrotters what do you recommend for mtts?

The book is catered to 6-max online players with a HUD.

Someone else would have to say what's applicable and what isn't to MTT

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I think a solid cash game player should be able to be a solid tournament player? It seems like if you had solid cash game skills (beating 100nl consistently) them that can only help with tournaments? You would develop a more all round game, good post flop play etc. It qould definitely be beneficial for the early stages of a tournament where everyone is deep stacked I think? I dont really know though, maybe im totally wrong. I read an interview with moorman where he said software isnt really that useful for tournaments and he doesnt use it. He could have been lying, who knows.

That's a question that's probably better suited to the beginner questions part of this forum. I don't mean to be rude, but in poker, generalizations like that don't really fly, especially on this board. You might want to ask that on reddit.

Again, this book just isn't really catered to tournaments as it's focus is 6-max online play and the author uses a HUD in every hand example.

I don't think this book will provide what you're looking for specifically and that you should seek a book that's catered to tournament play. There's several out there.

Good luck dude.

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Thanks for the answers.

I played a bit of live games with friends and some online about 10 years ago. I lurked on some forums back then but didn't study much. I read one Finnish book about poker that had the basics in it.

Looking to get back into it, this time taking it a bit more seriously (Study, HUD, hand history analysis, table selection, bankroll management). I've been reading some stuff online and will be reading these forums, but I'd like to also get a long-format book with a consistent voice.

I'll check out the link. And "textbook" sounds good to me as I'm quite used to reading scientific books/papers. I'll probably end up getting this book.

Cool, man. Then get in here and post stuff that confuses you so we can both learn!

I mostly play tournaments and SNGs myself. There are no really good books for MTTs or tournaments that I'm aware of. Kill Everyone covers some of the tournament specific stuff pretty well. Otherwise just try to get better at poker in general - a lot of the best stuff is written for 6-max cash so read that.

About not using a HUD - many tournament players don't (e.g. Casey Jarzabek doesn't) as you rarely get good sample sizes on people and you don't know what the situation was last time you met. Personally I play on a HUDless site anyway. It's still good to learn about HUD stats so you understand what the rest of the poker world is talking about when they discuss spots.

P.S. I have started a thread on 100 hands https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...larke-1701284/ if anyone else has read it and wants to comment.

Thanks for your reply

Quick question, if you do not play cash games much why did you get into carroters books? Is a lot of the stuff transferable to tournaments? I've heard good stuff about kill everyone and I will start reading that tomorrow. Thanks. I would love to hear what carroters has to say on cash games vs mtts

Because:

if you mean Carroters specifically I was looking for podcasts to listen to on my commute and started listening to those from a old training site called Grinderschool. Carroters seemed like the one who most knew what he was talking about so I started listening to his podcast too.

Yes. Far from the bubble and reasonably deep there is not much difference at all, except for the lower standard of play generally.

Cash games are always played in linear space (chips = money) whereas tournaments close to the bubble are played in curved space (more complex relationship between chips and money) but a lot of the same principles apply even then.

Another factor is the wider range of stack sizes in a tournament. They often start 300BB deep and go down to less than 10BB deep. I was about to write you "need" to play all stack sizes well, but plenty of other people don't either - better to say that you can benefit from learning how to play all stack sizes well. Cashgame books like TGM focus mostly on stacks around 100BB and do much less stuff with deeper or shorter effective stacks (particularly those under 20BB).

I don't know that he has much experience with MTTs.

I'm beginner level player, and have only read the first few chapters and am re-reading and re-reading them for the next while until I can apply the concepts well enough.

Book review:

Really well presented information. It's clear and easy to read and although some said it was "overkill" for me to buy it, I don't think it is. As a book it sets one of a better path of thinking, so I think it would be great for all beginners with the caveat that the later chapters will only be used as one advances.

Previous books i've read give a "do this, do that" approach where as Grinders Manual gives you a way to think about poker. I'm slowly getting it through my thick skull.

Overall 10/10 for what I've read so far.

I created the following post in The Beginner's Questions section of the forum, but it came about from reading this book, so perhaps some of it's readers can help me out: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url...1&share_type=t




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How beneficial would this book be to someone who plays in a room which doesn't allow HUDs nor any type of tracking? The reason for asking is that the decision-making process outlined in the book seems to rely pretty heavily on different stats. For example, how would I know if I should bet linear or polarized if I don't know how much villain folds to 3-bets?

On Hand 65, I couldn't figure out, using Equilab, how hero had range disadvantage on this flop.

For villain, I just used the default BU opening range at the start of the book, and for Hero, I used the calling vs 3x open from button range and removed AA-JJ as I thought those would be hands to 3-bet with.

I ended up with 51-49 in Hero's favor.

Can I get this book in hard copy? All i see is kindle on amazon.

No.

Hello, I'm new to the forum. I have been playing NL for the last 10 years, cash and tournaments, as a recreatonal player.

I bought this book and I really enjoyed it. I'm not that expert to write an educated review or detailed comparison with all the books i read in the past (Harrington's ones mainly), but it really seems solid and consistent through all its parts. Therefore I just bought and started reading 100 hands as well.

I have a question about one hand explained in TGM book, for all who have read, the author, or others.

It's hand 101 where hero is UTG with AKo, opens and gets 3bet by an unknown reg (3bet stat: 6) in the cutoff.
Solution of the author is to call this hand, 4bet/call KK+ and balancing with AQo as 4bet bluff.
This is because most regs will 3bet bluff very few against reg opening from UTG.

What about holding AQs in this spot? would it be better a 4bet bluff or a call?
Any thoughts about this example in general or possible different approaches?

Thanks

About half-way thru, great book so far! I play only live cash games these days (Melbourne), mainly full ring 2/5 NLHE, occasional 5/10. What other books would be recommended for that type of game please? (NLHE for Advanced Players looks good btw.)

My default strat is to 4bet QQ+/AK and stack off, 4-bet/fold ATs, A5s and maybe KQs (i.e. the 4-bet bluffing range is very small in terms of combos). AQs and AJs can flat, along with JJ-88 or 77. AQo is just a fold to the 3-bet.

Base it on player pool reads.

If you buy direct from him you get a PDF, which you can print out yourself.

Incidentally he also has a new mindset book out called "Poker Therapy"

Has anyone read this book? I like him as an author but skeptical that a book about mental game can help me.

I would argue that you're exactly who needs this book. Anyone who thinks mental game books/resources can't help them and they aren't playing MSNL+ is deluded.

I'm assuming you haven't read this book since you offered no comment on it, but which mental game books/resources significantly increased your profits in poker?

I read the sample and it made me think "Oh, that's an interesting way of explaining why people go on tilt" but I'm not convinced that that really helps me avoid tilt.

It would be nice if there was even just one review of this book on the internet.

Hi guys, Peter Clarke here. I noticed that Poker Therapy has been mentioned. I would love to invite anyone reading this to review the book for me and would be happy to provide a complimentary PDF to whomever would like to write a quick review of the book on this forum.

PM me if you're interested.

And in the meantime, if there are any questions about the new book I'd be more than happy to reply here.

The sample only covers the alien world view which is not a solution, but the initial framing of the problem. My recommendations for rewiring the mind for poker and the application of these to specific misfires come later.

Tommy Angelo - Eightfold Path to Poker Enlightenment. To name just one.