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Old 01-26-2008, 06:20 PM   #1
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Poker Novels--My Quick Ratings.

I have read a bunch of poker novels recently. Here are my quick ratings 1-10:

Broke by Brandon Adams. 7 (out of 10) Pretty good. A little short. It also just seems like a thinly-veiled auto-biography?

King of a Small World by Rick Bennet. 9 (out of 10). Strong. About a grinder in Philly. I wanted more.

Death on the Flop by Jackie Chance. 5 (out of 10). So so. Readable but a little dopey. Makes some errors about poker hands and calls a DVD a CD repeatedly.

The Prop by Pete Hautman. 8 (out of 10). Good book about a prop player at an Arizona casino and a murder mystery.

Deadman's Poker by James Swain. 7 (out of 10). Ok, but it seemed like the ending was missing or something.

Shut up and Deal by Jesse May. 7 (out of 10). Like Broke, just seems like a thinly veiled autobiography of a player in high stakes games in AC and elsewhere. Into small details and talks about changing his outfits a lot.

The Picasso Flop by Vince Van Patten and Robert Randisi. 8 (out of 10). I liked this one more than I thought I would. A few too many shameless plugs for Hollywood Poker and The World Poker Tour. Sometimes the writing sags, but the general story kept me involved.

Dead Money by Rudy Stegemoeller. 8 (out of 10). Readable and involving. Set at a tournament at a Foxwoods-like casino in New England.

The Rogues' Game by Milton Burton. 9 (our of 10). An artfully written novel set in Texas after WWII. Cool book.

If anyone has any suggestions for other poker novels to check out, I would love to hear them.

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Old 01-26-2008, 06:32 PM   #2
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Re: Poker Novels--My Quick Ratings.

Thanks for these reviews, I hadn't realized there was so much poker fiction out there.
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:44 PM   #3
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hey good stuff!! i was going to ask where VVP was... but there he is near the end. nice rating too!!
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:48 PM   #4
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Hate to nit but "King of a Small World" is primarily based in Prince Georges county Maryland and is essentially based on true story.
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:55 PM   #5
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Hate to nit but "King of a Small World" is primarily based in Prince Georges county Maryland and is essentially based on true story.
yeah, you're right. Maryland. Read it a few months ago. Dont know why I thought it was Philly.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:06 PM   #6
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I havent read anything other than Shut up and deal ... I found it very good, would give it a 9.

It is not a book about changing clothes, its a book about degens
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:21 AM   #7
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The Cincinnati Kid by Richard Jessup
Out of print but you might find it in your library.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:37 AM   #8
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Re: Poker Novels--My Quick Ratings.

My novel, Texas Poker Wisdom, should be on this list. It has better reviews than nearly all of them.

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Old 01-27-2008, 10:52 AM   #9
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My novel, Texas Poker Wisdom, should be on this list. It has better reviews than nearly all of them.

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Yes...but no-ones read it....
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:02 PM   #10
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I havent read anything other than Shut up and deal ... I found it very good, would give it a 9.

It is not a book about changing clothes, its a book about degens

I second that. Definitely a 9. I find it easily the best non strategy poker book I've read. Haven't read any others on the list though.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:02 PM   #11
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I havent read anything other than Shut up and deal ... I found it very good, would give it a 9.

It is not a book about changing clothes, its a book about degens
Yeah, Shut Up and Deal is good and it is about degens. But the dude does talk about changing his outfits a lot.
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:30 AM   #12
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Here is the poker fiction list from CardChat, whatever that is.
Fiction
Poker Nation by Andy Bellin
Shut Up and Deal by Jesse May
King of a Small World by Rick Bennet
The Prop by Pete Hautman
The Perfect Play, (a novel) by Louise Wener
Broke, a poker novel, by Brandon Adams
The Picasso Flop by Vince Van Patten
A New York Hold'em by William A. Klein
Texas Poker Wisdom by Johnny Hughes
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:57 AM   #13
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Yes...but no-ones read it....
Well maybe because it's just out recently (Texas Poker Wisdom). I liked it a lot.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:22 PM   #14
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all of the James Swain books are very readable. and if you like learning about scams and grifters and such they are great books. highly recomend
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:09 PM   #15
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The Cincinnati Kid by Richard Jessup
Out of print but you might find it in your library.

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On his sixteenth birthday he started running himself ragged trying to figure out why there was a chance for him with cards and why it appealed to him; he made a serious effort to find out and it was not too long, because he really pressed this thing, before he discovered that a betting man with an honest dollar to back his judgement on a subject was equal to anyone, anywhere, any time, and that from time immemorial there had been men who would bet, rich men with poor, smart men with stupid men, black men with white men. The size of a man's bet was not a significant factor, or what he bet on, nor how he bet. It was the idea of a man backing his judgement with something of value and taking the chance of losing. He took his pursuit further and discovered that businessmen were betting on their judgement, and young couples getting married were betting on their judgement, and that a stud game was the same thing, only that it was a very narrow fraternity and did not contribute anything to society, or to the economy, or to the development of a town, or a man, or anything at all, except that it was a way for a man to go, and a way a man might have of making his way. He saw, accurately, that there was not difference between the stud man and the stocks and bonds man, and when he saw that he could dedicate his life to learning stocks and bonds, or real estate, and that it would still be his judgement he would be backing with a bet, he turned back to cards because he had been with cards for so long a time and he had a head start. And then he recognized that he had this truly fine feeling for them.
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:28 PM   #16
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Re: Poker Novels--My Quick Ratings.

Poker Nation by Andy Bellin is non-fiction
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Old 01-28-2008, 02:31 PM   #17
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Was that book about his poker/tourney experiences over a one year time frame where he travelled all around the world playing tourneys and whatnot?
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:38 PM   #18
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Was that book about his poker/tourney experiences over a one year time frame where he travelled all around the world playing tourneys and whatnot?
yeah. totally not a novel.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:28 PM   #19
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Thanks, Toro. I liked Shut Up and Deal.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:23 AM   #20
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Johnny, I just finished your book. I liked it. Congrats. It seemed to be sort of in the same category as some of the others: thinly-veiled autobiography. I know the last 40 pages or so jumped off into a whole different sort of thing, but otherwise, it seemed like it fit in that category. I think your writing style is quite smooth and insightful. The book could have used some more copy-editing. There were some typos and so forth (like "quiet" spelled "quite" a few times, and so forth.) Anyway, you seem like an interesting guy.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:19 AM   #21
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Deadman's Poker by James Swain. 7 (out of 10). Ok, but it seemed like the ending was missing or something.
This is actually part 1 of a 2 part series. Deadman's Bluff finishes the story.

I loved all of Swain's stuff up till this series. Almost all of the prop bet stories were ripped straight out of Amarillo Slim's autobiography.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:04 AM   #22
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Ah. Thanks Turbo. That's good to know (about the Swain books).
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:01 PM   #23
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I read the prop a while ago, it was ok about a 6/10. I don't think anyone should be running out to buy it, or to the library or anything.

Although some of her ideas on pokering (the prop's) we're kind of amusing.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:44 AM   #24
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i bought Cards by Jonathan Maxwell at the same time i bought Broke. i really enjoyed both, but Cards much more so.

i just bought The Rebuy by Burto Deluchi, but have not started it. ymmv.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:06 PM   #25
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the amazon reviews of Cards look like fake reviews. Anyone else think this?
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