Anyone know anything about a course called Overnight Monster by Alvin Lau?

Supposed to be aimed at redchip casino players and online players up to .50-1.00 blinds.

I interview Alvin in episode four of the Poker Zoo podcast, where he describes much of his philosophy and what can be expected in his course.

Hi persuadeo:

Go ahead and put the link up.

Best wishes,
Mason

Sure - on my site: http://persuadeo.nl/the-poker-zoo-ep-4-alvin/

on Itunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000431392081

Hands down, this is one of the best courses you can buy.

I got this course a couple months back as a slightly winning 2/5 live player and am currently crushing 10/20 live and holding my own in many 5/t online fields.

The course excels in condensing information into easy to use heuristics so that you can apply knowledge in many situations. Learning flop textures to downbet, what turn cards are good overbets, how we choose our turn barrels in each situation, etc etc are all summarized in a very easy to digest and apply manner. It covers enough to take any losing live player and have them crushing in probably a month of practice. It discusses every major field you would need to know, and everything is done from a solver perspective. What I have gained most from this course is actually learning the ins and outs of solvers and how to use them in my own study in fields I feel I am weak in. Learning "how to learn" is a really underrated aspect of this game that Alvin addresses quite well.

The course also is based around analyzing the game through a solver perspective, though I think that's probably in the course preview. If any course isn't designed around solvers, it's garbage

Finally, Alvin does a few things to go above and beyond just the listed course. He made a FB study group that he's super active in and answers lots of questions. We play every week in a small stakes private game to practice and review hands. He also actually PMs me a lot and I get to talk directly to him. He's adding content to the course as he learns what is missing too.

Again, this is by far one of the best courses out there (I have looked at a few and none compare), but there are a few things that are lacking. He focuses mainly on attacking IP and doesn't really cover defending as much. Squeezing from the big blind, turn/river player from the big blind when you 3b, checkraising flops/turns/rivers would all be good concepts to see. Playing in tricky spots like 4b pots postflop are also lacking. I think he plans to add these things in slowly though.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I'd be happy to help.

$599, whoa!

Did ya buy it?

Do I understand correctly that it's a one-time cost for a lifetime subscription, as opposed to annual?

That's correct.

Don't buy it, it's useless. He doesn't have a support, and he doesn't
feel like answering questions. Most of useful answers are answered
by his students while he likes to delete posts. His facebook group is
still a bit live because his students don't have other channels to get support.

so the content is bad?

fwiw the author has been exposed a snake oil salesman who's been trying to make it coaching shitty strat for ages since he was never able to win at poker

https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...zzaispersonal/

goes back to 2010 when he was selling his **** under the name citizenwind.

all around reprehensible obnoxious person as well, extremely smug when it's not justified, unable to take criticism, character assassinating everyone who disagrees with him, insulting people etc etc.

I would think twice before buying anything he puts out or spending your time watching his **** even it's free.

Couldn't agree more.

I enjoyed your followup interview with Alvin where he discussed the recent landmark Pluribus vs Humans match:

https://persuadeo.nl/the-poker-zoo-e...n-on-pluribus/

In You joined two days ago and have two posts, both attacking the course and I have questions:

Do you have the course and if you do, what do you think of the material, including what is presented in the course FB group and discord?

If you purchased the course, did you ask for a timely refund?

In fairness, I will say a number of things you say are at best misleading:

Alvin tirelessly answers questions on the course FB page and in the course discord.

You can PM Alvin with questions or complaints or post them on the course FB page or in the discord.

Alvin has added video material based on member requests and has given elaborate answers to questions not covered in his videos on the course Facebook page.

The course figures to be more of a living and growing course than some others because of the type of member that it attracts to it's FB page; software and research driven players.

The course has a number of very hard working analytical players who post and who have moved up levels since working with Alvin-- they give Alvin great credit.

Most of those buying these types of courses who do well seem to be highly analytical, regularly seek conversation with better players and play lots of hours... some post a lot and others do not.

Personality?

It is no secret a number of people over the years have thought Alvin to be harsh, abrupt, or far bellow par in social skills.

Others credit Alvin with being a practical guy who helped them move up several levels.. and make the money.

One thing is for sure, smart people are loath to needlessly blow up much of their time.

There Is No Best Coach But There Might Be A Best Coach for You

Most people will never do well at poker no matter what they buy or who they pay but it is important to try and find the right study ways and material for you-- or have the wisdom to quit taking poker seriously.

Sklansky just released a highly recommended 2019 poker book that provides tips & highlights at the end of each chapter. Maybe take a look (?)

(I really am interested in the answers to the questions
I asked at the beginning of this post:

Did you buy the course and what do you think of the course material, including Facebook course posts and discord?

Did you ask for a timely refund?)

Alvin has a free YouTube channel called Alvin Teaches Poker, so it is easy to check out some of his ideas and his general approach.



Finding Equilibrium is another YouTube channel revolving around GTO/Solvers/Exploits that has received excellent reviews.

i enjoy finding equilibrium

don't know anything about alvin but clicked on that reddit thread and now absolutely refuse to believe check the wheel is anything other than an alt account of his he booted up after getting a google alert

edit: just to be clear and nip in the bud... I'm joking

regardless of what he has to offer, I'm not dealing with anyone who fakes graphs and uses sock puppets to promote himself

Glad to hear it!

+1

Disclaimer:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...poker-1744277/

lol, and here is coincidentally an account that doesn't post much but very active in that one defending him...

haters gonna hate
sockpuppeteers gonna sock puppet

Just finished watching the course and feel like I need to say that it is really good. Not sure about the guy as a person but the course is legit. I play 5 nl at the moment so not sure how much it would help more experienced players but for me it is worth it.

Is there anywhere a proper ranking or something of courses? Appreciating that different courses suit different people, i feel like there could still be some grading system that ticks/crosses the different attributes, costs etc, and maybe a subjective part where 2+2 users vote on effectiveness etc? Just think it’s really hard to find the right ones for you, and know which ones are ‘mainstream’.

Hey Guys,

recently had a Coaching Session with Alvin, they Guy offended me when seeing some of my Hands, like i am a retarted and how can u do that etc..
Isnt the Purpose of doing Coaching to help Students improving?
I want to warn any of u dont take a single Lesson with this Guy!

not commenting on this guy in particular but:

1. poker players often lack social skills and are rude when interacting with people, often times they are unaware of it
2. people hired to be consultants/coaches tend to get a big head, feel like a vip/rockstar who's so special/talented that you were brough in for this specific project - i've seen it a lot in the work life

poker coaches are a combination of these two things, so i'd expect many to be wholly unaware or not considering