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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
In regards to bluffs one thing I'm surprised you didn't mention is that if you use the larger sizing you should pick bluffing hands with blockers to the top of villain's calling range or hands that block villain from having the nuts when the obvious draw comes in, since those are the hands most likely to call down 3 big bets.
Like on AsTs3c I'd want a a big portion of my big bet bluffs to hold a J, since AJ is the most likely made hand to call down 3 big bets. Also I'd like to have Ks and Qs in my big bet range because those block villain from having the nuts on flush and straight completing turns and rivers. If I had to pick an ideal bomb 3 streets hand in this scenario it would be KsJx. With your example of 9s7s I'd mostly want to bet half pottish since I'm not really blocking any of villain's strong call downs and I'm just looking to make him fold weaker hands.
With small sizing villain's range is kept much wider so blockers to the top of the range become somewhat less relevant.
#1) Removal effects are mentioned in at least a couple spots of the book.
#2) Applications talked about removal effects in detail and IMO got it right, so I didn't want to repeat the same information again and make people pay for the same content twice.
#3) Removal effects on the flop and turn might be harder than you think. Let's stick with your K
J
on the A
T
3
board.
You mention K
J
blocks the straight on the turn, but are we even barreling if we turn the K
or J
on the turn anyways? If the turn comes the 2
, now isn't blocking the K
when we pot it on the turn a bad thing since this is when we'd make villain fold his K
4
or any other king high flush draw which just called the flop? Also doesn't the K
J
block villains gutshots (which may call the flop and fold on the turn) so we'll be running into more top pair hands than gutters which are exactly the hands that won't fold to a pot-sized bet?
See the difficulty here? Now imagine trying to pick out all the best "big bet bluff randomizers" on the flop and explain why and show a general pattern to a new player this early on in the book. It'd be incredibly difficult and time consuming to make the information useful, and likely will be completely overwhelming (Keep in mind I'm guessing most of the players posting here are better than the average player who will read this book). And even if the the K
J
is slightly more profitable to bet big with on the flop than the bet small, does it actually double barrel and triple barrel well on every river card or do you need to re-evaluate whether to bet small, medium, or big on each street? My guess is you'd need to re-evaluate, and now we're getting REALLY off topic for a section that's mostly designed to teach players why using multiple bet-sizes is a better strategy than only picking one bet size.
So while I agree removal effects are important, keep in mind I am a poker hobbyist trying to show others how to pick the lowest hanging fruit first. Removal effects are important, but in depth analysis on how to properly use that on streets earlier than the river (and river was already covered in Applications) is probably going to be very expensive (and very good) content created by players at the top of the game trying to appeal to a narrower audience than this book (websites that have the top players creating content for them, private coaching, etc). I think you'd already have to be very good before worrying about removal effects before the river.