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Old 06-02-2017, 09:57 PM   #26
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I purchased a number of 2+2 kindle books for this price last year, when I became aware of the offer. Luckily, I had purchased the paperbacks from Amazon so I qualified. Unfortunately, I didn't see this offer for 2+2's most recent book before NLHFAP, so I assumed they no longer offered it. So I purchased NLHFAP from Professional Poker to get it asap.

By the way, the paperback version is now over $30 and kindle still $35.

The $2.99 kindle price is called the matchbook price.
Hi George:

The kindle matchbook price is available for $2.99. You'll find it on the Amazon Kindle page for No-Limit Hold 'em For Advanced Players.

As for the Amazon retail price of $34.95 for the kindle, this is a price that Amazon sets, not us. All we do is tell them the list price and then we have no control as to what price Amazon sells it at. For instance, I have even seen a few short lived examples of Amazon selling one of our titles at below the wholesale price that we sell it to them.

However, since they do discount all the kindle versions of our other titles (for which kindles are available), I would expect them to reduce the price in the near future.

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Old 06-03-2017, 05:42 PM   #27
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Hi George:

The kindle matchbook price is available for $2.99. You'll find it on the Amazon Kindle page for No-Limit Hold 'em For Advanced Players.

As for the Amazon retail price of $34.95 for the kindle, this is a price that Amazon sets, not us. All we do is tell them the list price and then we have no control as to what price Amazon sells it at. For instance, I have even seen a few short lived examples of Amazon selling one of our titles at below the wholesale price that we sell it to them.

However, since they do discount all the kindle versions of our other titles (for which kindles are available), I would expect them to reduce the price in the near future.

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I realize they set the pricing. But it seems strange they'd charge more for an electronic copy than a hard copy, as the electronic is cheaper to produce all around (no printing, no shipping costs, etc). Perhaps there's a kindle only market who will pay a premium to get a kindle version asap. People like me can wait for the price to drop, as we have the hard copy.

The hard copy and Kindle price are now both $30.13, so it has been reduced already.

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Old 06-03-2017, 07:21 PM   #28
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On page 10, it says a linear range occurs when you "only have a betting or raising range and no calling or limping range." On page 17, "The button's calling range on a KK2 board" is defined as linear. I'm assuming this is an error.
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:00 PM   #29
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On page 10, it says a linear range occurs when you "only have a betting or raising range and no calling or limping range." On page 17, "The button's calling range on a KK2 board" is defined as linear. I'm assuming this is an error.
Hmmmm..... I see the confusion.

You can have a linear calling range as well. This would occur if you only call or fold when facing a bet because raising doesn't satisfy the two reasons for raising effectively.

The point I was trying to make was on the KK2r board when facing a CB you probably won't want to raise often if at all. That's because any hand strong enough to raise will probably include a king and if you hold a king you aren't vulnerable to being outdrawn and you reduce half the strong hand in the opponent's range (meaning he's most likely bluffing and may keep bluffing if you only call). But I see how that's confusing in context of the previous explanation because while it's true you WILL have a linear range if you only raise or bet and don't call, it's also true you can have a linear range if you only call and don't raise.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:40 PM   #30
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I realize they set the pricing. But it seems strange they'd charge more for an electronic copy than a hard copy, as the electronic is cheaper to produce all around (no printing, no shipping costs, etc). Perhaps there's a kindle only market who will pay a premium to get a kindle version asap. People like me can wait for the price to drop, as we have the hard copy.

The hard copy and Kindle price are now both $30.13, so it has been reduced already.
Hi George:

Not only is this true, but Amazon pays us less for a kindle than they do for a hard copy. However, at the moment I'm writing this, Amazon has dropped the price of the kindle to the exact same price as the hard copy.

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Any idea when the book will be shipping on Amazon Canada?
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:30 AM   #32
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Any idea when the book will be shipping on Amazon Canada?
Hi levelWAR3003:

No. All we do is ship to different Amazon warehouses as we get orders and I don't believe we ship directly to Amazon Canada. So I assume it'll take a couple of weeks, but don't really know.

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Old 06-04-2017, 10:45 AM   #33
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Dr. Janda: Nice work; well written; easy to follow, and a worthwhile book. I am glad I am only a recreational poker player, and am in the medical field, but somehow, I feel you will matriculate back to power. Congrats; a book everyone should have.
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The hard copy and Kindle price are now both $30.13, so it has been reduced already.
Seems kind of backwards that I payed $5 more by pre-ordering.
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Hi Matthew, I really enjoy your book so far, pretty clean and easy to digest. I have a question regarding how strange rake structure affects 3betting.
One asian network have preflop rake in 3bet pots, so whenever you 3bet, you are getting raped by rake. In your section 'Understanding Small Blind Play' you said rake is important when deciding between calling and folding. I guess, since we are getting raked preflop what I just mention applies and so 3betting ranges are affect by this structure. How would you adjust your range in this situation?
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Old 06-04-2017, 04:22 PM   #36
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Hi Matthew, I really enjoy your book so far, pretty clean and easy to digest. I have a question regarding how strange rake structure affects 3betting.
One asian network have preflop rake in 3bet pots, so whenever you 3bet, you are getting raped by rake. In your section 'Understanding Small Blind Play' you said rake is important when deciding between calling and folding. I guess, since we are getting raked preflop what I just mention applies and so 3betting ranges are affect by this structure. How would you adjust your range in this situation?
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Old 06-04-2017, 04:50 PM   #37
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Kindle edition is still $35.00 USD equivalent to my local currency (Im from México). Im a CAP 20bb reg learning to play 100bb poker. I read twice Grinders manual and im thinking buy NL Holdem for advanced players, but i dunno i will start playing from NL25, maybe the book is advanced for the stakes. Should i buy it?, the book have concepts for NL25-50 onlinemetagame?
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Old 06-04-2017, 05:16 PM   #39
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Holy crap this may actually be my order, assuming we only count seasons 1-2.

Do you have both Applications and NLHAP? If not and you'd like one and live in 'merica PM me your address and which one you'd like and I'll send you one as a prize for a contest I didn't know I was holding.
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Old 06-04-2017, 05:18 PM   #40
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Kindle edition is still $35.00 USD equivalent to my local currency (Im from México). Im a CAP 20bb reg learning to play 100bb poker. I read twice Grinders manual and im thinking buy NL Holdem for advanced players, but i dunno i will start playing from NL25, maybe the book is advanced for the stakes. Should i buy it?, the book have concepts for NL25-50 onlinemetagame?
I'd recommend NLHE for advanced players for someone in your situation but wouldn't recommend Applications. That said again it's hard to say this with too much certainty until I get more reviews/feedback for the new book, but I think you're good.
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Pilot (since this is the most important one, that sticks you onto it)
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Pretty good list. The first episode I saw was the season 3 one that aired online for free that everyone was raving how good it was. I just jumped in and thought it was super clever so then I started over from the beginning. In the last two months I've watched the entire series (maybe 8 hours of content without commercials) twice.
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:41 PM   #43
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Hi Matthew, I really enjoy your book so far, pretty clean and easy to digest. I have a question regarding how strange rake structure affects 3betting.
One asian network have preflop rake in 3bet pots, so whenever you 3bet, you are getting raped by rake. In your section 'Understanding Small Blind Play' you said rake is important when deciding between calling and folding. I guess, since we are getting raked preflop what I just mention applies and so 3betting ranges are affect by this structure. How would you adjust your range in this situation?
I'd just tighten up. I think you can argue that a few changes are going to happen (maybe he opens wider knowing now you have less of an incentive to 3-bet), which may encourage you to call a bit wider since now his button opening range is weaker, but for the most part I wouldn't worry too much about this unless your opponents are very good (which probably isn't the case or the games won't be beatable if there's pre-flop rake).

So yeah, I'd just emphasize calling a bit more since you're clearly playing against weak opponents if you can win with preflop rake, and 3-bet a bit less.
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Holy crap this may actually be my order, assuming we only count seasons 1-2.

Do you have both Applications and NLHAP? If not and you'd like one and live in 'merica PM me your address and which one you'd like and I'll send you one as a prize for a contest I didn't know I was holding.
Great minds think alike (and I missed season 3 ep. 1) Thanks for the kind offer, but because of the quality of Applications, NLHAP was a pre-order, so I already have both.
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Pretty good list. The first episode I saw was the season 3 one that aired online for free that everyone was raving how good it was. I just jumped in and thought it was super clever so then I started over from the beginning. In the last two months I've watched the entire series (maybe 8 hours of content without commercials) twice.
I didn't like ep1s03 that much, don't know why. Probably my expectations were way too high, but I'm sure the new season will be a bomb anyway.


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I'd just tighten up. I think you can argue that a few changes are going to happen (maybe he opens wider knowing now you have less of an incentive to 3-bet), which may encourage you to call a bit wider since now his button opening range is weaker, but for the most part I wouldn't worry too much about this unless your opponents are very good (which probably isn't the case or the games won't be beatable if there's pre-flop rake).

So yeah, I'd just emphasize calling a bit more since you're clearly playing against weak opponents if you can win with preflop rake, and 3-bet a bit less.
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Hmmmm..... I see the confusion.

You can have a linear calling range as well. This would occur if you only call or fold when facing a bet because raising doesn't satisfy the two reasons for raising effectively.

The point I was trying to make was on the KK2r board when facing a CB you probably won't want to raise often if at all. That's because any hand strong enough to raise will probably include a king and if you hold a king you aren't vulnerable to being outdrawn and you reduce half the strong hand in the opponent's range (meaning he's most likely bluffing and may keep bluffing if you only call). But I see how that's confusing in context of the previous explanation because while it's true you WILL have a linear range if you only raise or bet and don't call, it's also true you can have a linear range if you only call and don't raise.
Thanks for clearing this up for me. I appreciate the quick reply.
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Hi, this might be a silly question but I've been meaning to buy Applications for awhile and haven't yet. Do I need to read that first before this one? I am likely familiar (vaguely? Don't know cuz I haven't read them haha) with concepts presented in both books.

Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
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Hi, this might be a silly question but I've been meaning to buy Applications for awhile and haven't yet. Do I need to read that first before this one? I am likely familiar (vaguely? Don't know cuz I haven't read them haha) with concepts presented in both books.

Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!
I would say no. In fact, Matt updates some of his ranges to better reflect how today's games play. Also, I think the new book is easier to follow. But don't use that as an excuse to not read both books (and others), if you are serious about the game.
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Hi, this might be a silly question but I've been meaning to buy Applications for awhile and haven't yet. Do I need to read that first before this one? I am likely familiar (vaguely? Don't know cuz I haven't read them haha) with concepts presented in both books.

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You definitely do not need to read Applications first.
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Seems kind of backwards that I payed $5 more by pre-ordering.
Amazon has been doing a lot of screwing things lately.

A couple of years ago I made the mistake of joining Amazon Prime. Was great at first, but then items I regularly ordered all of a sudden couldn't be shipped to my PO Box. Huh? I contacted them twice about it and they couldn't (or wouldn't) give me a straight answer. I tricked the system for a few months by having it shipped to the local post office street address, with my box number as a suite number (the USPS allows this) which forced them to ship UPS. But they caught on to this after a while and that didn't work either. I figured out for myself the problem. They want to use their own delivery people instead of USPS, UPS or FedEx for many items, and since they don't have access to PO boxes, they just don't allow shipping there for certain items because they don't want to pay (at least for prime members). You'd think they could have been upfront about it. So I cancelled prime.

Recently tried to order the protein powder I've been using and discovered it can only be ordered by prime members. #$%^&#! Had to order from another vendor.

In general, Amazon has been getting really annoying with some of their antics.

Back to NLHFAP. I broke down and ordered a second hard copy, this one from Amazon, and got the kindle for another $2.99. Hopefully I can peddle it to a co-worker for $25 or so, as he seemed mildly interested. If not, it goes on the shelf with all the other multiple copies of 2+2 books I have. You're welcome, Mason.
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