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07-19-2021 , 07:08 AM
^loooool this almost got me, but there's like 0 chance it isn't some hs reg trolling
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07-19-2021 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by restacks
I'm happy to share and actually avoiding bots is one of the things I talk about in the book:

In the book, I show the reader how to play every stack size and the strategic adjustments that occur at every SPR. Most players simply ignore these differences, play the exact same preflop strat at every stack depth and don't consider the vast differences there are when cbet at say SPR 2.5 vs SPR 3.5. That may seem trivial, but I regularly played at 20bb-30bb with people who were losing from the BTN in HU.

It's quite hard to nail the preflop ranges for every stack size (though it won't be when you buy the book ) and a huge tell that someone is a bot is that they know how to adjust to all the different stack sizes. I learned this from losing to a bot on ACR who was later also banned from Party. As the information in this book gets out, this tell will become less good, but it's an extremely solid signal now.

Also avoid browser based poker sites. My then GF (absolute programming genius) showed me that the cards can be easily turned face up and without even the knowledge of the site operator.

Why don't I enjoy poker anymore despite winning? I never played poker because I liked it. I was a chess master and made a living playing and teaching that (by living I mean broke 22 year old ramen diet living). I knew poker players and knew it was the quickest way to make a living with the skills I had so I decided to turn pro without ever playing a hand and proceeded to study for months and got amazing coaching from Andrew Seidman. Moved up quickly and always planned to move on to things like writing (first love) and entrepreneurship. Basically, I never loved poker, it was just a means to an end. I do really enjoy coaching motivated people who love the game so I'll do that for a while longer while I feel I can provide value.

Hope that helps shed some light
I play on Global Poker which is browser based. Please elaborate on the bolded text as much as you can.
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07-19-2021 , 12:30 PM
Surely OP, you can see how silly it is to post anything from a 5k sample. And would you have posted it had you lost? I doubt it.
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07-19-2021 , 04:31 PM
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I play on Global Poker which is browser based. Please elaborate on the bolded text as much as you can.
imagine the results he isn't sharing with us, after a claim like that. lol

fwiw a couple browser-based sites that will remain unmentioned are spots where at least 2 guys i know have made the most money pokering this year from their usual rotation

great advice from the kid

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07-19-2021 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurus
I play on Global Poker which is browser based. Please elaborate on the bolded text as much as you can.
It's probably best not to talk about it publicly and give the wrong people more ideas. I don't know a ton more, but could share a couple things privately.
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07-19-2021 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NJPW
Surely OP, you can see how silly it is to post anything from a 5k sample. And would you have posted it had you lost? I doubt it.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Try playing around with a variance calculator here.

Plug in 5k hands with a 21bb/100 winrate and a standard dev of 120 (this is too high for 50bb, but let's assume that its not). The troll claimed I'm a losing player. So what's the probability that a player with a -1bb/100 winrate will win at 21bb/100 over this sample?

Definitive proof? No, but I said that already. Strong indication that he's wrong? I'd say 90%+ is a pretty strong indication.

Mostly I was just posting to trigger the trolls though :P Seems to have worked pretty well
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07-19-2021 , 06:08 PM
well, any idiot that has played a lot of hands had a run where they won 20bb over 5k sample, it says absolutely nothing and 5k hands, in pokerterms, is absolutely nothing as well
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07-19-2021 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by restacks
It's probably best not to talk about it publicly and give the wrong people more ideas. I don't know a ton more, but could share a couple things privately.
ahahaha omg, guy cries foul w superusing and wants to be secretive about it

what a pathetic joke

THE WRONG PEOPLE itt
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07-19-2021 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by restacks
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Try playing around with a variance calculator here.

Plug in 5k hands with a 21bb/100 winrate and a standard dev of 120 (this is too high for 50bb, but let's assume that its not). The troll claimed I'm a losing player. So what's the probability that a player with a -1bb/100 winrate will win at 21bb/100 over this sample?

Definitive proof? No, but I said that already. Strong indication that he's wrong? I'd say 90%+ is a pretty strong indication.

Mostly I was just posting to trigger the trolls though :P Seems to have worked pretty well
HEY GUYS HERE IS WHY THAT 4K HAND SAMPLE IS ACTUALLY MEANINGFUL BUT ACTUALLY IT'S NOT I WAS JUST TROLLING THE TROLLS LOL

thread was dead for weeks but sure he just WANTED me to come back out of hiding now that mason isn't able to protect him anymore. jlaw.gif

i just wanna emphasize here, he posted a sample where there's actually a whole 10.8% chance that he's a LOSING PLAYER (lol nobody ever made the claim that he's actually -ev itt), and he's propping that up as proof of his wizardry

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07-19-2021 , 06:33 PM
i honestly think i'm top 10 in the world when it comes to my theoretical understanding of hurting feelings and ruining two-bit hustles on poker messageboards
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07-19-2021 , 06:52 PM
grifters love to set up strawman arguments, but ok let's play ball




95% confidence interval (?) [-647 BB, 2747 BB]


[-12.94 BB/100, 54.94 BB/100]


your sample proves what, again?

"strong indications" itt
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07-19-2021 , 07:04 PM
more proof that a sizeable # of coaches on RIO roster are just cashing checks because of who they know. and i don't even hate, you won't find me in other coaching threads causing a stir.

but lol maybe that shade will actually get some of them itt, because sure as **** none of them are itt defending you right now
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07-19-2021 , 07:10 PM
^ You spam this thread a lot for someone who doesn't have time for a HU grudge match.

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+rep,
you're coming off as a belligerent ex-gf in this thread. considering your "life is basically the ****" (my god that was so cringe) you should have better things to do.
+1 this is really embarrassing, either play HU or stfu already.
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07-19-2021 , 08:24 PM
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, another student switched to short stacking and doubled his winrate.

This book is the synthesis of that work.
Im speechless. Amazing achievement, creating your own parasite.
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07-19-2021 , 08:25 PM
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^ You spam this thread a lot for someone who doesn't have time for a HU grudge match.



+1 this is really embarrassing, either play HU or stfu already.
so i hesitate to even quote this because i assume anybody with <2 dozen posts is just a gimmick account belonging to somebody who is too scared to put their name behind whatever bullshit it is they're posting, but either way maybe you should just shut the **** up and let the adults handle this
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07-19-2021 , 08:26 PM
Has a book thread on 2p2 ever gone well? The few i've read seem to all derail into trainwrecks, but I guess tbf that's all threads on 2p2.
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07-19-2021 , 08:29 PM
anybody who is selling a print media book in 2021 is garbage and rightfully should be exposed as such

the idea that you're some kind of wizard because you ran some preflop sims for 30bb and 40bb depths, and figured out that cbetting ranges should change based on spr, is just like, wow, ok

and you wanna even bring up the idea of 'exploits' when the samples you've posted are nowhere near significant enough to verify the success rates and profitability of said lines with your airballs. you don't know **** about exploits and mass database analysis

OP is really in over his head here, and i'm just going off of what's been posted itt
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07-20-2021 , 12:11 PM
As a neutral observer, I see the book may have some things it can teach people, but also curious as to why restacks does not ever reply to +rep who is responding directly to his posts.
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07-20-2021 , 02:57 PM
well he did accept a hu challenge, but 15/30 not high enough app.
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07-20-2021 , 02:57 PM
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As a neutral observer, I see the book may have some things it can teach people, but also curious as to why restacks does not ever reply to +rep who is responding directly to his posts.
Because he does things like send personally threatening emails and misrepresent and mischaracterize anything I post. So I treat him like the child he is and ignore cries for attention and let him self soothe.

For example: He said I posted a 4k hand sample. Well early in the thread I posted all the hands I played in 2019-2020 up until the point I returned to the US where there is no PS or PP. I stopped playing then and couldn't leave the US due to Corona. That sample was around 55k hands (as I said earlier, it was actually more but some of the tracking didn't work). I didn't play for a year and then have started posting results since I came back. If I posted results for years prior, people would rightly complain they're old and I don't have them on this laptop anyway. I plan to post more as I get them, but also don't really consider myself a full time player anymore so will never be a high volume player. Also when you win a lot at HU, people don't play you as often.

What I'm simply stating is that, as usual, the truth is nuanced and I have no interest in engaging with strawman, bad faith arguments from mentally unstable people.

I'm more than happy to respond to your inquiries or answer any questions you have though. I think I've done that consistently throughout the thread.
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07-20-2021 , 03:22 PM
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anybody who is selling a print media book in 2021 is garbage and rightfully should be exposed as such

the idea that you're some kind of wizard because you ran some preflop sims for 30bb and 40bb depths, and figured out that cbetting ranges should change based on spr, is just like, wow, ok

and you wanna even bring up the idea of 'exploits' when the samples you've posted are nowhere near significant enough to verify the success rates and profitability of said lines with your airballs. you don't know **** about exploits and mass database analysis

OP is really in over his head here, and i'm just going off of what's been posted itt
In an effort to try to make a contribution instead of making a bunch of claims and then backing out as soon as someone agrees to a challenge, I made a deal with Cory to read and review his book under the agreement that I will only end up paying for the book if I believe his claims to be true.

I would consider myself knowledgeable enough at PLO to judge its content and hopefully learn something from it.

I am primarily a ring-game player (85%+ volume is 3 handed or more) but I have played about 40k hands of HU this year with decent results. My opinion is that good ideas and content should translate well between the two forms of PLO.



I don't know how long it will take for me to digest the book as I am really not a book-learner and have always proponed other ways of learning. This is also true having watched some of Corys content on RIO previously, where my approach to the game has been vastly different.

My initial thought on Corys claims that anyone who reads the book will then be able to beat 2kPLO, are sceptical to say the least. My own opinion, after being a coach for 5 years, is that most people are unable to reach 2kPLO at all (having coached about 10 people to 2kPLO/NL-ring or higher from low stakes).
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07-20-2021 , 03:37 PM
Cory's willingness to make that deal + tomsOn's words seem very bullish for the book. Will defo buy if I ever get interested in transitioning to HUPLO
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07-20-2021 , 03:39 PM
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In an effort to try to make a contribution instead of making a bunch of claims and then backing out as soon as someone agrees to a challenge,
yeaaa that's not what happened lol. obviously nobody agreed to anything when this clown OP won't even address me directly

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I made a deal with Cory to read and review his book under the agreement that I will only end up paying for the book if I believe his claims to be true.
cool, but i don't need the $1600 book and don't need to be giving anybody the benefit of the doubt here. people itt forgetting that i'm not the one with **** to prove, up in here making preposterous claims with little to no basis for them
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07-20-2021 , 03:46 PM
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In an effort to try to make a contribution instead of making a bunch of claims and then backing out as soon as someone agrees to a challenge, I made a deal with Cory to read and review his book under the agreement that I will only end up paying for the book if I believe his claims to be true.

I would consider myself knowledgeable enough at PLO to judge its content and hopefully learn something from it.

I am primarily a ring-game player (85%+ volume is 3 handed or more) but I have played about 40k hands of HU this year with decent results. My opinion is that good ideas and content should translate well between the two forms of PLO.



I don't know how long it will take for me to digest the book as I am really not a book-learner and have always proponed other ways of learning. This is also true having watched some of Corys content on RIO previously, where my approach to the game has been vastly different.

My initial thought on Corys claims that anyone who reads the book will then be able to beat 2kPLO, are sceptical to say the least. My own opinion, after being a coach for 5 years, is that most people are unable to reach 2kPLO at all (having coached about 10 people to 2kPLO/NL-ring or higher from low stakes).
Im going to re-enter the debate

1. Did Cory allow you to read/review the book after he saw your results/your playing graph was verified?

2. I am v interested in your opinion that you and Corys approaches to the game are v different: in what ways? (An elaboration on your approach may be enough to give me an idea.)

3. How much do your charge as a coach?

4. Have you released any widely distributed content? Would you ever write a poker book?

5. With regards to the numbers, how many players have you coached total? (Where 10 have made it to high stakes.)
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07-20-2021 , 05:34 PM
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I’m going to re-enter the debate

1. Did Cory allow you to read/review the book after he saw your results/your playing graph was verified?

2. I am v interested in your opinion that you and Cory’s approaches to the game are v different: in what ways? (An elaboration on your approach may be enough to give me an idea.)

3. How much do your charge as a coach?

4. Have you released any widely distributed content? Would you ever write a poker book?

5. With regards to the numbers, how many players have you coached total? (Where 10 have made it to high stakes.)
1. I shared my yearly graph, not HU specific.

2. I want to clarify, I have not taken coaching from Cory, I have not read his book yet, all I can judge from is his video content I have seen (maybe 10 videos). I am also sure he will partly disagree with my opinion on this question.

I played NL for many years, somewhat successfully, by the end playing an average big blind above $10 and playing up to $50/100. I approached the game in a way where I would learn how strategies by memorizing them after seeing simulations. This lead to a lot of generalisations as the game tree for ring games grows very large. After moving onto PLO in 2018, I struggled with this approach and spent a lot of time developing other ways of thinking about the game and building my strategies with different combinations more from first principle instead of relying on solver outputs I have seen previously.

While I am sure Cory disagrees with me at this point, strategy graphs and similar things that I have seen in his content does in my opinion lead to more generalisations since you are very limited to the amount of flops you could do this work for, and kind of lends itself more to memorization and pattern-recognition.

This is of course a lot more effective in HU, especially short stack, where the game trees are a lot smaller and you can memorize lines / ranges with more precision. I don't think there is a coincidence this is Cory's strongest game as it suits his way of learning and teaching well.

3. I only do 1-year long CFP Deals that includes me staking the student. I have very strong (negative) opinions on hourly coaching and the CFP models employed by large stables but that is not for this thread.

After thinking a bit about it I believe from an incentive and ethical standpoint, a video course or a book (I believe these are somewhat equivalent) are superior to both CFP without backing as well as hourly coaching, so you are more likely to get a good product buying a book or a course similar to the Upswing Model, rather than entering into a CFP-deal / hourly-deal where the coach has 0 skin in the game or buying a subscription model coaching service such as RIO or Mastermind.

4. No, I've ran a blog on a Swedish forum for a long time where I share HH analysis and stuff sometimes but I have never sold any content and probably never will, because of what I outlined in 3). I will probably never write a book or create a course either because of piracy reasons. I believe one good student will make me more money over the course of a deal rather than making a course or book. I also enjoy coaching people a lot and I would hate writing a book or recording videos.

5. Maybe 100 deals with 70 different players if I had to ball-park it (some are repeats who come back after a year or so). I've run the coaching business with a very good friend of mine and my first and only poker coach who taught me NL in 2014-2015. He runs the NL-side of the stable and I run the PLO-side as of today. We have only ever lost money on 1 or 2 students iirc which I think is a pretty good track record in the backing business.
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