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Originally Posted by rdedrde1
IÂ’m going to re-enter the debate
1. Did Cory allow you to read/review the book after he saw your results/your playing graph was verified?
2. I am v interested in your opinion that you and CoryÂ’s approaches to the game are v different: in what ways? (An elaboration on your approach may be enough to give me an idea.)
3. How much do your charge as a coach?
4. Have you released any widely distributed content? Would you ever write a poker book?
5. With regards to the numbers, how many players have you coached total? (Where 10 have made it to high stakes.)
1. I shared my yearly graph, not HU specific.
2. I want to clarify, I have not taken coaching from Cory, I have not read his book yet, all I can judge from is his video content I have seen (maybe 10 videos). I am also sure he will partly disagree with my opinion on this question.
I played NL for many years, somewhat successfully, by the end playing an average big blind above $10 and playing up to $50/100. I approached the game in a way where I would learn how strategies by memorizing them after seeing simulations. This lead to a lot of generalisations as the game tree for ring games grows very large. After moving onto PLO in 2018, I struggled with this approach and spent a lot of time developing other ways of thinking about the game and building my strategies with different combinations more from first principle instead of relying on solver outputs I have seen previously.
While I am sure Cory disagrees with me at this point, strategy graphs and similar things that I have seen in his content does in my opinion lead to more generalisations since you are very limited to the amount of flops you could do this work for, and kind of lends itself more to memorization and pattern-recognition.
This is of course a lot more effective in HU, especially short stack, where the game trees are a lot smaller and you can memorize lines / ranges with more precision. I don't think there is a coincidence this is Cory's strongest game as it suits his way of learning and teaching well.
3. I only do 1-year long CFP Deals that includes me staking the student. I have very strong (negative) opinions on hourly coaching and the CFP models employed by large stables but that is not for this thread.
After thinking a bit about it I believe from an incentive and ethical standpoint, a video course or a book (I believe these are somewhat equivalent) are superior to both CFP without backing as well as hourly coaching, so you are more likely to get a good product buying a book or a course similar to the Upswing Model, rather than entering into a CFP-deal / hourly-deal where the coach has 0 skin in the game or buying a subscription model coaching service such as RIO or Mastermind.
4. No, I've ran a blog on a Swedish forum for a long time where I share HH analysis and stuff sometimes but I have never sold any content and probably never will, because of what I outlined in 3). I will probably never write a book or create a course either because of piracy reasons. I believe one good student will make me more money over the course of a deal rather than making a course or book. I also enjoy coaching people a lot and I would hate writing a book or recording videos.
5. Maybe 100 deals with 70 different players if I had to ball-park it (some are repeats who come back after a year or so). I've run the coaching business with a very good friend of mine and my first and only poker coach who taught me NL in 2014-2015. He runs the NL-side of the stable and I run the PLO-side as of today. We have only ever lost money on 1 or 2 students iirc which I think is a pretty good track record in the backing business.