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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
But I will give you one hint. What expert GTO players often do is that they see where their opponent(s) is deviating from GTO play and then they use this knowledge to exploit them. You seem to have all of this confused.
So if I'm a GTO expert and I know my opponent will only bet the nuts in a certain situation, I'll leave my GTO calling frequency, play exploitative poker, and now fold. Again, you have all this confused.
Mason
I don't have anything confused, I'm talking about a villain playing GTO - You are now describing a player who is not playing GTO, and who is now playing exploitatively - which is the issue you had with my initial post. You can't have your cake and eat it here.
If I'm to surmise that you also think the GTO villain has the skills to adapt to hero's deviation, then that is the very point my book is about
(a) they typically do not (as the vast majority have learned spots by wrote / solvers), but mainly
(b) hero must disguise this deviation and get away with it for as long as they can and then
must stop that particular sub-optimal deviation immediately once there's a chance the villain recognises it.
The book centres on setting up spots where you can deviate from GTO and the villain wont adapt instantly, giving you a short-run gain. You really are lost in a spiral of theory if you think there's a villain who always adapts on the spot perfectly.
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
Another book that will explain this stuff to you is The Theory of Poker Applied to No-Limit by David Sklansky.
The idea that you see how and where your opponent is deviating from GTO and then you deviate from GTO to exploit them, appeared in some of our books years ago. You may want to look at The Intelligent Poker Player by Philip Newall which was published in 2011.
Mason
I'm very well aware of these books, and I'm sure there are lots of books about making exploitative adaptations to your game. That's not what I'm talking about here. My book is about deviating from GTO in a way that your opponent does not realise, and then when they apply a GTO solution, it makes their response sub-optimal compared to if they had all of the information about your hand/range. The very oversimplified example I've given of a player who only bets the nuts is very clear, and I don't think you've raised any point which I have not explained comfortably here or above.