Is it possible to apply the concepts of Jeff Hwang's first book to the 6max games since it was written mostly for full ring?

check out his second book..."Advanced Pot Limit Omaha" small ball and short handed play

Note that this is a very different strategy than most will advocate on the 2+2 forums - Jeff advocates more of a loose-passive strategy for PLO. In Advanced PLO Vol. II (which comes out this month), he will go into loose-aggressive play.

Anyone have a copy they read already? I'll buy if it's reasonable price.

The copies at Barnes & Nobel are at a reasonable price.

I assume that his second book is too advanced for a beginning PLO player. Am I correct?

2 and 3 aren't out yet. The very last little things with the art on the backs are being adjusted & proofed right now, which will probably be done in the next day or two, and so far as I know everything else is 100% done. The release date is Oct 10 for both according to an Amazon email I got today, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's available sooner (but I don't know for sure as that depends on the printing schedule, distribution and all of that).

Before anyone asks I don't know anything else about them or their contents, other than what the descriptions say, and I suck at PLO anyway. I'd start looking in a month or so.

i've been playing PLO for about a year now.when i first played poker i played NLHE and read tons of books (mainly old bad ones) and tried following the advice. it sucked mainly.

so when i played PLO beside internet forums i read nothing. i wanted to learn from experience.

i recently read both jeff's books.i cannot recommend either highly enough. they are both terrific.


the second book is great.however by the time i read it i'd already been using some of the concepts in it.i might not have called it SPR but i knew that if i hit top pair and a gutshot on the flop i could get it in against a short stack but needed to be more carefull against a deep stack.also i didn't call it floating but when somone bet less than pot on flop i'd call and see what they did on turn esp when in position.


personally i found the first book more valuable.it's really good on the fundamentals, which while i'd figured out that j1098 DS was a better hand than j976 single suit, in jeff's first book it really gets down to why and how much better it is.

Pot Limit Omaha: The big Play Strategy - is excellent at teaching you the very fundamental nature of PLO, and how to avoid really dangerous situations with the likely second-best hand. I would get this book first. While it mainly applies to multi-way pots in full-ring play, the reality is that (as Jeff says in the second book), the big pot hands are still the big pot hands in short-handed play, and if you don't understand how to play them, you may win some small pots 6handed, but you will get crushed in the big ones.

Advanced Pot Limit Omaha: Volume I: Small Ball and Shorthanded play - mainly applies to shorthanded pots with marginal (read: not big pot) hands. Advocates more of a loose-passive approach to keep the pot small and find places to steal. Mainly deals with playing without the initiative (i.e., when youa re not the preflop raiser). It gives advice on how to play more marginal structures and hands and serves as a complement to the strategy and fundamentals in his first book. It is also one of the sharpest looking and organized books I have ever read, and Jeff actually knows how to write.

Advances PLO: Volume II: LAG Play - comes out soon, and while Jeff intro'd some of these ideas in volume 1, I'm sure this gets much more in depth with how to play with the initiative, 3-betting in and out of position, and playing even more marginal structures. Oh, and since this is more the style advocated on most forums and training videos, it is good for Jeff to get it into print.

Advance PLO: Volume III: The Workbook - comes out soon, I assume it's problems (but I don't know).

i hope i'm not breaking rules. if so, i'm sure mod can fix.

other thread mentioned that jeff hwang has two new plo books out next month. i had no idea, nor do i think many others will either.... i just thought the info was very buried in another thread and should have its own thread, especially given so few new poker books in general

excellent author. probably buy both even though i'm not huge poker book buyer these days.

volume one was excellent, can't wait for volume 2 and 3

They are scheduled to come out Oct. 10 accd to Amazon. I have preordered both.

I have a nice deal on the 2 pack here.

That is a good deal.

So good, in fact, I canceled my amazon order and ordered through you!

Very good deal, I jumped at that one as well! PLO > Hold em all day.

I wouldn't say that.

What I would say, and what Jeff clearly says in the first few pages of his second book, is that when you read his second book Jeff assumes that you have read and are throughly familiar with everything he wrote about in his first book.

So it isn't so much that the second book is too advanced. It's more that Pot Limit Omaha is too complicated, and at times counter-intuitive, for just a single book to cover everything.

In short, but 'em both. It will be money well spent.

Pot Limit Omaha Poker: The Big Play Strategy vs Advanced Pot Limit Omaha: Volume I: Small Ball and Shorthanded Play

I also want to clear up one thing - Even thought the title is Advanced Pot Limit Omaha: Volume I (aka APLO1), it was Pot Limit Omaha Poker (aka PLOP) that was Jeff's first book. Even though it is from a different publisher, Jeff refers to PLOP many times in APLO1.

People should buy & read PLOP first.




PLOP - I smile every time I type that. LOL!)