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01-27-2012 , 10:57 PM
I dont care about title,i care if a book help me make more money trough good content.
Guess each has its own motivation to buy a book...
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01-28-2012 , 08:06 AM
To those that can't get past the whole "100K" marketing thing by Daily Variance, I say sit down and be quiet. Tri is a good poker player, but he's mostly a business man now, selling books on DV. One of these books is Dynamic Full Ring Poker by Split. Nowhere in Split's book does he claim you're going to make $100K. If you have a beef with the marketing of the book, go talk to Tri (who, in my experience, is a stand-up solid guy. I even blogged back in December about a problem I had with a purchase on DV, and how Tri made things right without me asking him to. He's one of the good guys in the poker world.)

Anyway, back to Split's book. DFRP is an excellent, high-quality read. I literally own more than 100 poker books (and, yes, I've read them all). Split's book is easily in the top ten percent. It's not for beginners. I'd even say it's not for intermediates. Instead, it's for advanced players who want to elevate their game. Split has a unique way of thinking about hands and poker concepts that, frankly, I've adopted as my own now. I've read the book twice. I paid a full price for the book when it first came out, but I've more than made it up in winnings since the purchase.

Split's an excellent coach, puts together really good videos, and has written a quality book that can improve your win rate. I honestly don't care what Split's personal win rate is, or what marketing hype DV uses to sell the product. Do you care if a basketball coach can shoot baskets perfectly himself? I don't. Instead I want to know that the coach can teach me to shoot baskets better. Come on people, use some common sense and drop the silly attitudes. Split and DFRP has made me a better poker player. I believe it will make you one too-- if you give it a chance.

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01-28-2012 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by buggzilla
To those that can't get past the whole "100K" marketing thing by Daily Variance, I say sit down and be quiet. Tri is a good poker player, but he's mostly a business man now, selling books on DV. One of these books is Dynamic Full Ring Poker by Split. Nowhere in Split's book does he claim you're going to make $100K. If you have a beef with the marketing of the book, go talk to Tri (who, in my experience, is a stand-up solid guy. I even blogged back in December about a problem I had with a purchase on DV, and how Tri made things right without me asking him to. He's one of the good guys in the poker world.)
Tri is most certainly not a good guy. The consensus in the community is that he is scumbag leaching off the community. There is 72 page thread in NVG at the moment full of people criticising him - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...3/index72.html

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Split's an excellent coach, puts together really good videos, and has written a quality book that can improve your win rate. I honestly don't care what Split's personal win rate is, or what marketing hype DV uses to sell the product. Do you care if a basketball coach can shoot baskets perfectly himself? I don't. Instead I want to know that the coach can teach me to shoot baskets better. Come on people, use some common sense and drop the silly attitudes. Split and DFRP has made me a better poker player. I believe it will make you one too-- if you give it a chance.
How do you know all that? You are a nobody microstakes player. How are you in a position to judge the quality of splits coaching/videos/books? Its ridiculous all these micro-stakes morons that come out saying 'coach xyz is great' when they have no authority to do so.

"Do you care if a basketball coach can shoot baskets perfectly himself?" Poker isnt a physical activity. Would you take math lessons off a guy that cant pass a math exam? You are just another gullible idiot being fleeced by a coach who is crap at poker. All these 'coaches' like split who have crap results rely on pr and promoting themselves on forums to get business. If split was just a random fish with the same results there is no way in hell you would pay for coaching off him, you have just fallen for the marketing. I think it is an absolute disgrace to be selling a book called making 100K at the micros when nobody has EVER made that much at the micros, not even close. From looking at ptr split himself hasnt even made 3 buyins in several years worth of results yet he is selling a book on how to make 100K, gimme a break. You are basically a scammer if you put out a book with a title like that. And as someone else said, split agreed to that title, if he wasnt happy with it he could have refused it.
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01-28-2012 , 11:19 AM
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I think it is an absolute disgrace to be selling a book called making 100K at the micros when nobody has EVER made that much at the micros, not even close. From looking at ptr split himself hasnt even made 3 buyins in several years worth of results yet he is selling a book on how to make 100K, gimme a break. You are basically a scammer if you put out a book with a title like that. And as someone else said, split agreed to that title, if he wasnt happy with it he could have refused it.
Where does it actually describe the book as you quoted?
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01-28-2012 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStorm
Tri is most certainly not a good guy. The consensus in the community is that he is scumbag leaching off the community. There is 72 page thread in NVG at the moment full of people criticising him - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...3/index72.html

How do you know all that? You are a nobody microstakes player. How are you in a position to judge the quality of splits coaching/videos/books? Its ridiculous all these micro-stakes morons that come out saying 'coach xyz is great' when they have no authority to do so.

"Do you care if a basketball coach can shoot baskets perfectly himself?" Poker isnt a physical activity. Would you take math lessons off a guy that cant pass a math exam? You are just another gullible idiot being fleeced by a coach who is crap at poker. All these 'coaches' like split who have crap results rely on pr and promoting themselves on forums to get business. If split was just a random fish with the same results there is no way in hell you would pay for coaching off him, you have just fallen for the marketing. I think it is an absolute disgrace to be selling a book called making 100K at the micros when nobody has EVER made that much at the micros, not even close. From looking at ptr split himself hasnt even made 3 buyins in several years worth of results yet he is selling a book on how to make 100K, gimme a break. You are basically a scammer if you put out a book with a title like that. And as someone else said, split agreed to that title, if he wasnt happy with it he could have refused it.
Wow. You sure seem like an angry person. Calling names (“nobody,” “morons,” “idiot,” etc.) really isn’t going to help you win arguments. I’m sure your mother taught you that at some point. Usually when you call a person a name, they stop listening to the point you’re trying to make. You might consider taking a breath before responding to a post like this again in the future, and just dial back the vitriol a bit.

To address your specific points:
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Originally Posted by PokerStorm
Tri is most certainly not a good guy. The consensus in the community is that he is scumbag leaching off the community. There is 72 page thread in NVG at the moment full of people criticising him - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...3/index72.html
Yes, quite a few people on the forums don’t like Tri. Okay, fine. My own experiences dealing with him have been quite positive. Sure, his products aren’t cheap, but in most cases they’re solid informational material. More to the point, he fixed a problem I had without complaint, and made it right without me having to ask.

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How do you know all that? You are a nobody microstakes player. How are you in a position to judge the quality of splits coaching/videos/books? Its ridiculous all these micro-stakes morons that come out saying 'coach xyz is great' when they have no authority to do so.
How do I know all that? Wow, again. How do you know anything? We all have different skills and experiences. I don’t claim to be a professional poker book evaluator. I assume you’re not, either. Instead, I’m just an enthusiast like most everyone else here. A forum is just that: a forum for people to discuss different points of view. Relax.

And yes, I’m a nobody microstakes player. But so are you. How does wasting bandwidth point out the fact that we’re both “nobodies” advance a debate? It doesn’t. Attack the comment, not the person making the comment.

For what it’s worth. I’ve actually watched almost all of Split’s videos. They’re excellent, and I believe strongly that they helped turn me into a winning player. Take the time to watch one. They’re free on www.thepokerbank.com. What do you have to lose? Twenty minutes of your time, at most. You might actually discover he knows something about poker that you could learn from.

Also, I’ve actually read this particular book. Twice. Have you? Do you actually have a specific complaint about any of the specific poker material contained in the book? If so, I’d really enjoy debating that point. Instead, you seem to be hung up on the marketing of the book and Split’s own personal win rate. Uh, okay. You’ve said the book should be labeled differently. Okay, fine. We’ve all heard you. Now, what specific complaint do you have with any of the material in the book? Please share.

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"Do you care if a basketball coach can shoot baskets perfectly himself?" Poker isnt a physical activity. Would you take math lessons off a guy that cant pass a math exam? You are just another gullible idiot being fleeced by a coach who is crap at poker. All these 'coaches' like split who have crap results rely on pr and promoting themselves on forums to get business. If split was just a random fish with the same results there is no way in hell you would pay for coaching off him, you have just fallen for the marketing.
Okay, perhaps basketball wasn’t a good example to use. Math might indeed be better. I used to teach math at a community college. I’m actually pretty good at teaching it. But I’m also a pretty bad test taker myself. Said another way, I’m a good math coach, but my “win rate” at tests wasn’t great. There’s even a (semi-derogatory) expression for this common situation: Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach. Just because you’re a good coach at something, doesn’t mean you’re necessarily good at doing it yourself. And vice versa. Another example would be golf, which in indeed a “physical activity”, as you say, but we all know it’s mostly a mental game. Tiger Woods has a golf coach that he uses to make his game better. Do you honestly think that his coach is as good as him on the green, in front of thousands of people, with millions on the line? No, neither do I. Why? Because those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

In my experience, poker coaching is often the same way. My own coach is excellent, but he has a horrible tilt problem that negates most of his winnings. Ergo his win rate sucks. But he’s still a good coach who can dissect my errors and help me fix them. Do you not see how someone can be good at teaching, but not at performing?

Note that I didn’t have to resort to calling names. Try it, you might get people to listen to you better.
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01-29-2012 , 07:45 PM
Hello split!

Just wanted to stop by to say this is the best book about poker I've read, by far.

I don't understand people complaining about 6max vs FR. (I am a 6max player) The book is not a recipe book (do this here, do that there), it explains the reasoning behind actions. Most importantly it taught me to actually have a reasoning and a plan behind every action (if you reasoning looks like ``LOLZ I HAZ QQ => 3Bet'' you need to read this).

Best book ever, just buy it, seriously.

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01-29-2012 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lowanizer
Hello split!

Just wanted to stop by to say this is the best book about poker I've read, by far.

I don't understand people complaining about 6max vs FR. (I am a 6max player) The book is not a recipe book (do this here, do that there), it explains the reasoning behind actions. Most importantly it thought me to actually have a reasoning and a plan behind every action (if you reasoning looks like ``LOLZ I HAZ QQ, I 3Bet'' you need to read this).

Best book ever, just buy it, seriously.
Thank you very much =) That was a huge compliment!
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02-01-2012 , 01:17 PM
I know that you (and others) have stated that the book is applicable to live games, but how much of the content is explained using HUD stats?

For those of us that never play online, will we be lost due to not knowing how to apply that sort of terminology?
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02-01-2012 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Wubbie075
I know that you (and others) have stated that the book is applicable to live games, but how much of the content is explained using HUD stats?

For those of us that never play online, will we be lost due to not knowing how to apply that sort of terminology?
Some sections utilize the HUD more than others, but each used HUD stat is explained in various parts of the book. I don't think it'll be too difficult as most of the HUD stats talked about in hand examples are simple (like flopCB% or 3bet%)
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02-01-2012 , 03:22 PM
So as long as I can reasonably approximate these stats for my live opponents I should be ok (i.e. Rather than knowing villain has a CB% of exactly 71.25%, I judge he does it about 3/4 times)
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02-01-2012 , 03:22 PM
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So as long as I can reasonably approximate these stats for my live opponents I should be ok (i.e. Rather than knowing villain has a CB% of exactly 71.25%, I judge he does it about 3/4 times)
Precisely!
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03-05-2012 , 10:22 AM
just started the book, thank you so much for sharing the things you know..
around halfway towards the free videos also... helped me a lot to improve..
thank you again!!
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03-05-2012 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by defauit
just started the book, thank you so much for sharing the things you know..
around halfway towards the free videos also... helped me a lot to improve..
thank you again!!
Thank you. A fantastic comment to start the week with =)
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05-27-2012 , 09:27 AM
Hi !
Just wanted to write a few words about splitsuit's book !
I think he made an excellent work ! The fact that he focuses on the "why" and not on the "what" helps you improve your understanding of poker. He has a very good approach of poker and of teaching.
This book truly helps you to think more logically and therefore help you for any form of NLHE (6 max, HU, and MTT's), if you are able to adapt the advice to people's ranges and lines.
It helped me to get better, but also to love the game even more than I did !
To sum up : great work, and thanks a lot to James for helping me a lot with his book
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09-29-2012 , 09:58 AM
Can someone tell me, on Page 63, with regards to the 3-betting chart, how we work out the "Has to work z% to breakeven" percentages
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09-29-2012 , 12:26 PM
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Can someone tell me, on Page 63, with regards to the 3-betting chart, how we work out the "Has to work z% to breakeven" percentages
risk/(risk+reward) = breakeven%

so if your opponent opens for $3 at 100NL and you 3bet to $9 from the button, you are risking $9 to win $3 + the blinds ($1.5). So $9/($9+$3+$1.5) = $9/$13.5 = 66.7%
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09-29-2012 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LoupBlanc
Hi !
Just wanted to write a few words about splitsuit's book !
I think he made an excellent work ! The fact that he focuses on the "why" and not on the "what" helps you improve your understanding of poker. He has a very good approach of poker and of teaching.
This book truly helps you to think more logically and therefore help you for any form of NLHE (6 max, HU, and MTT's), if you are able to adapt the advice to people's ranges and lines.
It helped me to get better, but also to love the game even more than I did !
To sum up : great work, and thanks a lot to James for helping me a lot with his book
sorry i missed this...thank you very much for the kind words!
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10-02-2012 , 12:38 PM
I didn't know you had a book out, i may have to pick this up.
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10-03-2012 , 05:16 PM
By far the best book writing on Fullring poker for the beginning online player and players at all levels for that matter. Covers every thing, especially strong fundamentals, as opposed to Building a bankroll. Witch is also a great book, but comes more from a mindset, theory, bankroll management perspective. I'd recommend owning both, but if you can only afford one go with Dynamic fullring IMO.
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10-03-2012 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ILLSIDED
By far the best book writing on Fullring poker for the beginning online player and players at all levels for that matter. Covers every thing, especially strong fundamentals, as opposed to Building a bankroll. Witch is also a great book, but comes more from a mindset, theory, bankroll management perspective. I'd recommend owning both, but if you can only afford one go with Dynamic fullring IMO.
Thank you for the very kind words =)
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11-24-2012 , 06:12 PM
Hi,

So this is my first post on 2+2, i've been playing poker for a little bit now & I guess I like playing cash games better then sng's & mtt's, I have a small bankroll ( around 250$ ) from playing NL2 & NL5 & now i'm going to take a shot at NL10.
So I thought it was time to invest some money into a book.

Split I bought the kindle version 15 minutes ago after reading alot of good stuff about it so I hope it will help me too & i'll keep you up to date with my results & a review after i finish reading it!
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11-25-2012 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastoor D
Hi,

So this is my first post on 2+2, i've been playing poker for a little bit now & I guess I like playing cash games better then sng's & mtt's, I have a small bankroll ( around 250$ ) from playing NL2 & NL5 & now i'm going to take a shot at NL10.
So I thought it was time to invest some money into a book.

Split I bought the kindle version 15 minutes ago after reading alot of good stuff about it so I hope it will help me too & i'll keep you up to date with my results & a review after i finish reading it!
I look forward to reading your review =)

Enjoy the book!
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02-15-2013 , 05:20 AM
just starting on this book, very promising so far
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02-15-2013 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1aday
just starting on this book, very promising so far
hopefully you enjoy the whole thing =)
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02-17-2013 , 12:03 PM
What was the starting price ? I can see actual price is ~10$ Seems to me like a perfect deal
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