thank you. I appreciate that a lot =)

Split, best of luck to you and DV in these troubling times. I don't think any site comes close to the level of customer support you'll find there.

thank you. very much appreciated =)

I purchased Split's book a little over a month ago. I bit the bullet and ordered both the hard copy for home and the e-version for travel (I biz-trip a lot for work, and the e-version was promptly put on my Kindle and was mostly read on airplanes over the Atlantic ocean).

Book opinions are like belly-buttons; everyone has one. That said, I own over 100 poker books, from oldies like Super/System and The Biggest Game in Town, through most of the more popular modern instructional books. More importantly, I've read every single one of the books in my library cover to cover. I'm also a published author of non-fiction technical books, and I'm married to a technical writer/copy-editor. In other words, I kind of consider myself an authority on poker books and writing.

Split's book, IMHO, is quite good. I think it could have used some more professional editing and at least one more serious proof-read by a qualified third-party, but this is really just a minor quibble.

The organization of the material was also a bit weird at first (e.g., there's a chapter on preflop warmup, then one on PF hand selection, followed by a bunch of meaty chapters on calling, isolating, 3-betting and other stuff, but then he jumps back to preflop again with things like table selection.) The postflop chapters follow a similar, not-fully-linear line, but again this a minor issue. To paraphrase someone smarter than me, it's not the style that matters, it's the substance. And this is where the book really shines.

In basic terms, the book is chock-full of really excellent advice and explanations. The information presented is highly useful and applicable to today's online game. I learned a lot more than I was expecting to, including some things about c-betting that I honestly believe improved my win rate about 0.5ptbb/100. No lie. I confess I still have about fifty pages yet to read, but everything I have seen thus far has been similarly solid and practical.

Even better, I've had a few questions when reading the book, so I emailed Split. In both cases, within 24 hours I had a concise, simple explanation emailed back that helped me grasp the concept that I was struggling with. Talk about excellent customer service.

It should be noted that this is not a beginner's book. It's full of terms and phrases that aren't always fully explained ahead of time; the average reader of 2p2 should not have a problem with the book, but someone new to the game would probably be lost in the jargon.

It's also important to note that this is not an inexpensive book. It's not even a moderately priced one. In simple terms, it's an expensive book. But that's OK. DFRP is for players who are seriously serious about their game. For someone like me, who plays fairly serious low-stakes NLHE cash games 15-20 hours a week, it is an excellent addition to the library and well worth the money. And like I said, I think it's already improved my win rate.

Dems my two cents; I hope this helps someone on the fence.
-Bug

Thanks for the honest review Bug

(ftr, if you have suggestions for future structuring and more linear writing, I would be happy to take suggestions via email =) )

I just re-read my review, and I'm worried now that it comes off a bit harsher than I meant it to be. So, just to be clear: I believe DFRP is a truly excellent book and absolutely worth the money for someone of my skills and knowledge (i.e., a fairly solid, winning low-stakes FR player who is looking for professional/fine-edge tweaks to my game). It's not cheap, but it's worth the money.

I'd go so far as to say that DFRP currently ranks in the top five on my book shelf of 100 poker books. It's that good. The edit and structure issues that I pointed out are minor things in the overall big picture.

-Bug

no worries. I'm just a perfectionist =)

(and the top 5 is a major compliment. thank you =) )

Hello,

I just purchased this book from amazon, quite frankly I was put off by the price, usually only university text books are this expensive. I am still pretty much new to poker, played some limit and no limit on .01/.02 tables. I only play FR because I read that is isbetter for beginners. I have spent more money on books and other educational poker material than I have in my bank roll :lol:

I have Harrington on cash games vol 1 but haven't started reading it yet but after hearing about this book I figured maybe it was more relevant to how I play. I also have holdem manager and leakbuster but my hand history is only a few thousand so far.

Anyway I kind of have a obsession with buying books and hoarding knowledge so I probably didn't need to buy this book yet but I did anyway. I hope it will help my game.

I was also considering signing up for pokerzion's roots training programme but perhaps I should take it easy, one step at a time.

hopefully you find the knowledge well worth the price tag =)

Do you think it is ok to read DFRP as my first poker book? Do you recommend reading anything else before hand? As I mentioned I have Harrington on Cash Games vol. 1, I know I need vol 2 as well but do you think it is better to read those before or after DFRP? Playing 0.01/0.02 NL I think it will take a long time to grind my value out of the book but hopefully that will speed up as I move up Your techniques are still valid even at the lowest of micro stakes I hope?

it was written with the micro and small stakes in mind, yessir. and if you understand standard poker jargon talked about in the COTWs and such, you should be just fine using it as your first book imo

Suppose you are in a full-ring 9-handed game and the first three players fold pre. Is the strategy for the remaining 6 players identical to a 6-handed game?

Also, I'm perplexed as to why the Kindle version is $60 cheaper than the paperback. Is it really that costly to print something?

Not really due to FR players not adjusting the same way that 6max players would naturally adjust in that spot (if that makes sense). The framework and thought process would be similar of course, but the ranges/frequencies would usually be different (sometimes slightly, sometimes drastically)

You can always ask support@dailyvariance.com

That's true.

I am a cheapskate at heart but i think $40 bucks for the kindle version is an absolute steal. I read it cover to cover and now use it as a reference book. Like if i am sucking at 3bet pots i read that chapter and it reinforces all the things i should be looking at.

This book has so much valuable material but don't let it make your head spin. Work on one concept at a time and it is awesome. I was strugging at 200NLH but after this book it shows me how good fullring players approach the game. James it is a great book. This one ranks up there with No limit Theory and practice and that is one of the best poker books ever written.

Thank you very much. There is nothing better than starting your day with a compliment like this =)

Would this book be good for 1/2 - 5/10 live as well?

Comment #12 from here: LINKY

"Dynamic Full Ring Poker is excellent! It's easily the best book I've ever read for full ring no-limit holdem. The concepts are clearly explained and will benefit a lot of players. I would highly recommend it for micro to low stakes online players as well as live players ($1/2-$5/10)."

In going on with that question, what concepts from the book to you feel translate well to the soft live games, and which would you consider to be less applicable? (aside from the obvious hud stats, of course)

The overall framework will apply to live games. In that, you need to think about ranges and frequencies and then adjust your lines accordingly. Many examples in the book went over playing against fishy opponents (which would be in the soft live games you mentioned), and there are many sections which go into MW pots as well (which are also more common in live games). Just make sure to consider how ranges change (and also how common MW pots are both preflop and postflop!)

Uno más plz.

done.

This thread deserves a bump.

The kindle version of this book is only $9.99 on Amazon.com

This sounds like an incredible bargain. I'm buying it this weekend. Having watched the author's videos from back in his Stox Poker days, I'm sure he'll deliver value.

p.s. Don't forget about his free video on using FLOPZILLA:

http://www.thepokerbank.com/videos/s...ing-flopzilla/

Wow £6.60 on amazon.co.uk kindle version :O
Bye bye fish