You haven't explained your definition of a full ring specific book. Is it enough to have starting hand recommendations and hand examples specific to full ring or do you need to see super secret full ring only river bluffs as well?

Lol the author is likely not going to respond to you again. Why waste his time? you'll keep this thread at the top and people will realize that the general consensus is the book is very good and he'll get more sales. Cha-ching.

I dont see any problem with the title. IT is for FR. SO why he couldnt put it in the title? There are some examples which i am sure arent good for 6 max and lot of other stuff so yes it is FR book. More helpful would be review or some interesting stuff about the book than complaining about the title.

I have been on vacation for the last few days, thus why my response has taken so long.

Areas where this book is blatantly FR:

1.) the areas where I discuss stat ranges for player types (FR specific)
2.) the areas where I discuss stat ranges for HUD stats (things like resteal, CB, FoldvFlopCB, etc.)
3.) ideas on FR postflop tendencies and

If this isn't enough to prove it, maybe a quote from a review earlier in this thread:

"It's relevant to today's games. I found myself saying "Yes, I see that all the time" in lots of chapters. "

to make a last point...as eluded to in posts leading up to this...i think it would be misleading to NOT put full ring in the title. The 6max player pool is a lot larger than the FR player pool...and thus having 6max players unknowingly buy a FR book would be quite irresponsible imo.

Me as well please

Thanks mate

If he was being dishonest (or at least misleading) as you imply then he could advertise it as relevant for both full ring and 6-max and have the best of both worlds, so why doesn't he?

this is silly. read the book excerpt. if you think the book will help your game...buy it. If not, move on.

Silly? I found it hilarious FR players tricked into buying a good book, what is the world coming to?

fwiw, I play 6 max and I bought this and love it.

If you are far enough in your game you'll be able to detect what's applicable and what's not and how to transpose (or ignore). Bottom line though, if the first 3 people fold, you are playing 6 max. If you have 3 absolute nits at the table, you are effectively playing 6 max.

As Baluga likes to say, the button is still the button.

This book spends the majority of its time on the factors that go into a decision and those factors really don't change from FR to 6-max. The only thing that really changes is ranges and that is where this book is definitely FR specific. It comes from a FR perspective and treats the ranges as such.

Evaluating whether to c-bet or not, however, still requires they same thinking whether you are playing FR or HU... what's my opponent's range, if I bet, why am I betting (for value, bluff, or to collect dead money/deny my opponent the opportunity to collect is equity share), how will my opponent play that range, etc.

Beyond this book, I've bought plenty of 6-max, FR, and HU material even though I play 6-max. You get different perspectives from the authors and a lot of times you can use their ideas and morph it into something viable for your particular game. It requires some creativity and thinking, but it's still just poker with a flop, a turn, and a river.

There is nothing magical about playing 2 players, or 6, or 9 (or 10). The only thing that really changes is your cost per hand, ranges, and the effects of tilt.

cubase makes a lot of sense to me...

+1

I'm returning to FR soon and thought this book would be a good refresher and also help me build my game.

I'm concerned about the lack of results from the author.

PM sent

In the preview it seems as though the PDF has color graphics. Does the print version contain color or is it all black and white?

the paperback copy is in black and white

I have ordered it, despite the lack of results and despite the link to the database picture which shows a low winrate (but higher than PTR). I am making a bet that I will gain a few insights into the full ring game. If the bet fails, I only lose $97.

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I would be grateful though if Split could send me an email explaining why his adjusted results (i.e. those not on PTR, but in the link) are still on the low side, despite the fact that he clearly is knowledgeable about the game.

PM sent

I think a WR of 4bb/100 is phenomenal for a mass multi-tabler in today's games.

The confusing part is actually that he doesnt play much anymore

time sadly

And again if u dont mind ...

sent. but given your small post number I don't think PMs will work for you...

Split, I am very close to buying this book, but would also appreciate the PM answering the question the others have asked, although I am more than likely to buy it regardless of response, I'm just curious about your WR as others have been.

Also, I was wondering if this book is geared more for micro stakes or small stakes FR as I believe they play fairly differently. Basically I'm wondering if it will help a part time NL100 FR marginal winner (about 1BB/100 over ~300K hands the last 2 years) plug some leaks and finally take the jump to NL200 FR? I'm sure that even if it plugged 1 leak at NL100, it'd be worth 1 buy in, so I'm not as much worried about the price as I am about spending my limited study time focusing on something that is going to help me succeed at NL200 and not something that is geared more towards NL10 to NL50 games.

I will send you a PM in a minute.

As to the last part...here is a quote from a review on the book:

So to answer your question, I think you will certainly get value from the book =)

This book deserves more love. I've read nearly 3/4 of the book and I'm absolutely loving it. It's fast becoming my no1 favorite poker book. Thank you James

no no...thank YOU for the love and compliment =)

Agreed. This book is very well written. It's clear the author spent a lot of time proofing the text. I only wish the hardcopy version had a bigger font and was printed in color.