AHA! i just found out you can email it as a zipped file for conversion onto kindle. (that way the file is only about 16mb!).

So far the contents page is a little out of alignment but the text pages are fine so far (have only started reading the first chapter after getting it converted onto the kindle 5 minutes ago).

I've flicked through some pages on the kindle (about the first 10%). The text appears fine (although in one section there is a very small part that was mis aligned, but not too badly and unlikely to be distracting in anyway). The initial diagrams showing position (examples od early, middle etc) appears just as a dark, blank square...but they for most if not all readers are relatively unimportant. There might be away to solve this i will have to look into it.

I'm not sure if there are any more diagrams later on in the book and whether they will be affected in the same way.

Personally, from the way it appears on the Kindle at the moment, i am quite happy with it, and am going to enjoy reading it...it certainly looks packed with information.

I'm not sure how it looks non converted look on the kindle so cant do a straight forward comparison yet.

I read it on my kindle and it was ok. I didnt convert i just upload it there as i received it. I just switch my kindle to landscape mode and it was much better. I had the same problem with the size. I couldnt send it to amazon but if it works with zip it is cool and i am sending right now:-)

I sent the file in ZIP to AMAZON and they sent it back to me within 10 minutes. I think it is almost perfect. Few pictures didnt work but i have kindle in my Iphone so you can check them there. Quality is very good.

What am I doing wrong guys? When I zip the file it's only compressing from 29 mb to a little under 25 mb not 16mb and my email still won't send it to amazon. I've tried using whatever compression utility is on my computer as well as winzip and I get the same almost 25 mb size file. How did you all get it to compress to 16 mb?

Most PDF files do not compress very much.

Anyone? Tri suggested I use WinRAR but even though it compressed it to 14 mb Kindle wouldn't accept the .rar compression and it only compresses it to around 25 mb using the .zip. At least two posters here have been able to get it onto Kindle. I'm just wondering how because nothing I try works.

I just used winzip. I'd never used to package a file before, normally only unzipped stuff.

It appeared to be fairly straight forward. I selected it for zipping, and saved it. then uploaded it as an attachment onto my hotmail account and sent it to Amazon. I'm not sure if i did anything other than that.

Hello Split,

I'm curious about this as well, so if you wouldn't mind...

And also, is the paper version being delievered already?

Thanks!

PM sent

I used winzip and it has 24Mb. I sent it wit GMAIL to amazon and it worked fine. They say that email under 25MB works.

I don't know how to get Amazon to do that. Could you explain?

If you have account on amazon they will give you email adress. It is in : manage your kindle or manage your account not sure. There you can send the email and they will send it back to your kindle.

Anybody read this lately? Would love to hear some more reviews.

I'm about halfway through. It's pretty solid. So far the part I learned the most from was about SDV and how to categorize different hand strengths.

Is this book beneficial for live low stakes NL players? I checked out the table of contents but it seems more geared towards online play.

Split, please send me the PM that others have got on the WR issue.

I think this is a great book. But I'm surprised no one has pointed out the fact that the words 'Full Ring' in the title are there, for the most part, for marketing reasons. Any book with these words in the title, assuming the author and press are generally thought to be respectable -- and in this case they obviously are -- is going to sell very well. Mostly because there are no real competitors, and because full-ring players feel slighted by authors and video-producing coaches.

So it is a brilliant marketing ploy, but slightly misleading, since as far as I can tell so far there isn't much material specific to full-ring play. Notice that I'm not saying that this is a fault of the book. I doubt there is terribly much to say, of a very general nature, concerning how good FR play differs from good 6-max play.

In FR -- people do generally have stronger ranges; postflop raises (at least at micro/small stakes) tend to mean strong made hands and very strong draws, with very little pure bluffing going on in largish pots; the 'bunching effect' sees to it that strong aces and pocket pairs show up more often than in a 6-max game; and multi-way pots are much more common. But mostly what makes a good FR player is the same as what makes a good 6max player: hard work, discipline, game and seat selection, and handreading.

In short, good poker is good poker, and this book provides good poker instruction.

But the title is certainly misleading, even if mostly harmlessly so.

I will send you the PM in a few minutes.

I do want to address your comments here though. the title is in no way misleading. the entire book is about FR strategy...and while poker theory and fundamentals will remain constant throughout any variant of NLHE, the specific strategies (ranges, action frequencies, etc.) spoken throughout the book are FR oriented.

I would go into further detail, but I don't want this post to get deleted for being "self-promotion-y".

I'm glad you enjoyed the material in the book though =)

Split: Thanks for your response, and for your PM (though the link you sent does not work; so the PM raises as many questions as it answers).

As for your response, I do understand that there is a limit to what you can say here given the restrictions on discussing non-2+2 book titles.

However, what you do say amounts to nothing more than - "you are wrong". You don't give a single example to support your case. You simply reject your opponent's thesis. This is not a very sophisticated, effective, or persuasive argumentative technique.

So: I'm sure that the moderators would allow you to point to chapters of your book -- or, to make it easier for you, pages of your book -- in which you discuss matters which are specific to full-ring poker.

As I said in the original post, I have read the book, and found very little such content.

SO WHERE IS IT?

[The alternative is to give up this hopeless charade, and just admit the point that I made in my earlier post. I'm sure most FR players have bought the book by now, so you shouldn't lose much money by doing so!]

I do wish to reiterate the point, however, that I think this is a good book. My criticism is simply of the somewhat dishonest manner in which it is marketed.

I've had a chance to read this, and as a fellow coach, I must say this book is pretty good. Its very up to date, and if you can follow it and apply what is being talked about correctly, you should be able to do well for yourself in Micro FR.

:s so this is really a 6max book posing as a full ring book to trick me into buying it? So what you're saying is a poker book's sales will increase significantly just by adding 'full ring' in the title?

You obviously didn't read the entire post.

It is not a 6max book posing as a full ring book. It is a poker book posing as a specifically FR book to try and trick you into buying it (assuming that you are a member of the requisite demographic).

I really cannot wait until the author/publisher makes his or her next deflection. There are many reasons that a conflict such as this might arise. But in this case, I think, the primary reason is that the author/publisher radically underestimates the dialectic opposition.

Good luck to you.

If the starting hands recommendations are suitable for full ring and the hand examples are full ring wouldn't that be enough to qualify the book to be "full ring"? I'm sure the author appreciates this thread getting bumped up again. It will help him continue to trick people into buying a good book.

This is just ridiculous. The majority of players are 6max players. Why on earth would he not market it as a general poker book if that's what it is rather than deliberately excluding the majority of his market?

This is just ridiculous. The majority of players are 6max players. Why on earth would he not market it as a general poker book if that's what it is rather than deliberately excluding the majority of his market?



Is it really possible that you are asking this question?

The obvious answer is that there are dozens of 6max books, and few if any good FR books.

Sorry, I messed up the quote function.

Should have looked like this:


Is it really possible that you are asking this question?

The obvious answer is that there are dozens of 6max books, but few if any good FR books. So a good book that advertises itself as being for FR players will be bought by most such players. This would not be true of a 6max book.