Re: value and price

It may well be worth the price. I don't dispute that. But seems to me before a person buys it they better first exhaust all the coaching videos out there. A 1 month subscription on a few sites could get you the equivalent of dozens of books' content and you'd be in far less money.

I applaud these guys for making and selling the expensive ebooks, but for me at least it'd be a last resort kind of thing for improvement. Professional books can be pretty expensive, but until now I'd never heard of spending this kind of money for an ebook. I mean GD, at least get set up with a vanity press and deliver a printed hardbound book.

Translation: you are all stupid morons who have no clue about real poker. If you did have a clue you would not be on 2+2 hanging out with ... oh wait .. tubajackass.

I love the last sentence, devoid of any reality, yet posted with such conviction and certitude that it almost sounds plausible.

Oh and the only reason to worry about piracy is if he is selling snake oil. No one is going to give-away $750 e-book, UNLESS IT SUCKS and they are seeking pay back.

Really? So you really feel that it's completely implausible for someone to buy the book for $750 then offer to sell copies for $375? Or for three people to agree to chip in $275 apiece and then have two copies made from the original? Sorry buddy, but I've owned way too many pirated copies of software that cost $1000+ for a license to believe that nobody is going to try and make some easy money off of Bobbo's work.

the book is worth every last cent, trust me.

amulet--

Heartily agreed that Sklansky is a giant among poker theorists. Also heartily agreed that there is much to learn from 2+2's published output. But since the publication of The Mathematics of Poker, the phrase I've bolded above is nowhere near true.

All my best,

--Nate

750$ rip off if you ask me, i dont buy a book for that price. Really, that is ******ed. Really, what is he going to learn you. Being tilt-free? i buy that for 750$

Sorry if I offended you...the point is that you get what you pay for. If you have to complain about the price, then the book isn't for you anyway.

Also, if you'd like to refute my last sentence with you know, some logic, that'd be nice.

hahahahahah

also, Sean Fraley makes a brilliant point there.

There is actually no way this book does not end somewhere in the net. It may take months, but it must happen, simple. Sooner or later.

Do you really think this book will be the first piece of 1001010101 in history that won't suffer from piracy?

Face it.

Im sure the book is good, but most everything out there is taken from the fundamental writings of Sklansky. I see his stuff re-worked and re-named constantly. Although I love Tommy Angelo Repriciocity is Sklanksys Sklansky dollars etc etc and on it goes.
The terms in poker have changed and are changing rapidly, yet the underlying concepts havent changed much.

No book is worth $750, ur crazy for asking someone to pay that much.

Maybe $100 but thats pushing it dude.

his dvd's are stellar for 60 bucks imo

lol @ people saying the book is overpriced without reading it.

im sure 95% of the people that have purchased the book who are beating msnl games now think its well worth the money.

I am just going through the videos and am quite impressed.

Has anyone out there that has READ the book and WATCHED the DVD's?

I would like to know how the two compare. My presumption is that the book is going to be a lot more thorough than the DVDs but can someone out there tell me if there is a lot of new concepts discussed in the book that are not at all discussed in the DVDs and if the books does a better job of explaining some of the concepts in more details than the DVDs?

thanks,

I have both, the book is more detailed although less well organised and presented at the moment. This is supposedly going to change as Rob has hired someone to edit the book and that would be a nice improvement although it is still perfectly usable. I would say having both is good as although the two cover the same content they state it in slightly different ways which helps to ensure you understand everything.

If you afford the book to not pay the small extra for the video would be silly, if you can't afford the book then the video will be good but of slightly less value i guess.

PS I have also done Robs Group Coaching which referred to the book a fair bit, i think my game has definately come on since using all 3 and my win rate has improved markedly (i was already a winner at a reasonable bb/100)

reminder that Super/System cost 200 1970s dollars when it came out, which after inflation is pricier than this book.

No. It was $100.

MM

Mason,
Although sometimes i disagree with your views I really wish you would review some of the E-Books/videos out there. I know 2+2 doesnt sell in that market, but
I see and read so much based on Sklansky's writing etc.Also I think the e-book/ video market needs a wake-up call .

Ur mom goes to college

I'm confused about BobboFito's e-book. I think he took it off the market for a while...is it back on the market now? How can one get it?

Send him a PM or Email, he is a coach at Leggo and there is a forum on there for the book. If you still can't find his contact details send me a PM i can give you his Email if you are seriously considering a purchase i guess he won't mind.

I'm not your buddy.

As for Warez, people who use it would not have paid for it anyway. The fact of the matter is that the B.S. pushed by Biz (I am former programmer) that says all software that is pirated, is money lost. IT'S BULLCRAP.

You didn't pay 1/2 or 1/4 of the price for your software.

To say that people selling "shares" of the book is tantamount to using a key-gen for software; begs the question after that non-sequiter.

Assuming that everyone is a thief because you are, is a bit arrogant.

If he was that concerned about piracy, he would print the book. For $750 per book, he can afford it. Not to mention that the cost of printing would be offset by the higher sales (no piracy). Guess you will tell us how the copiers will be running day and night if it's hardcopied.

Piracy is a red herring.

Just checking in: is the price still at $750? Lower the tag and with all this hype, he'll sell a million at $350.

The Bbbofitos book is well written and full of good info. Also, I met the author recently and found him easy going and extremely knowlrgable.

I bought his DVD set, which is based on his book, and it's one of my favorite poker materials -- easy to watch and understand and he explains his concepts briefly but sweet.

Has his book been edited yet?