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Originally Posted by xHQx
i don't see how i can flat with K6s readless, because after every flop, which we need to call, situation will be like "please dont bet please"
the point is - we already have hands in your range which will call 1 barrel then fold (weak broadway etc), but we dont really have enough hands which can call 2-3 barrels then raise for example. or am i wrong maybe?
It sounds like you are mistaking *wanting* to face a bet or raise with being able to call a bet or raise.
Honestly, it's not often I actually *want* to get action by facing a raise. A good example would be when I open the button and get 3-bet. There really aren't that many hands where I'm hoping I face a 3-bet. But I'm still going to call with lots of AXs/KXs/suited connectors/pocket pairs etc, even though I'd much rather have just taken down the pot or faced a call from my opponent than a 3-bet.
Playing in 3-bet pots uses the same concept. If open the button and call a 3-bet with KXs, no way am I folding a pair of kings on most boards to the double barrel. Would I rather my opponent have checked? Of course. But I still think it's +EV to call rather than fold.
There is a huge bias for favoring 65s over K6s because 65s makes you go "ughhhhhhh" less than K6s. You can feel good about folding 65s usually. But basically here are the differences.
Advantages of K
6
#1) K
6
flops better flush draws.
#2) K
6
flops better pairs of sixes.
#3) Pairs of kings are (significantly) better than pairs of 5's.
Advantages of 6
5
#1) 6
5
can make straights.
There are maybe a few more you can think of, but the remaining reasons I think are pretty small. So now you have to ask yourself "Is the ability of 6
5
to make straights enough to overcome the advantages of K
6
." Meh. I'm not sure. It's probably pretty close, and I wouldn't be surprised if some ranges need both KXs and suited connectors in them. But I do feel it's unlikely 6
5
>>> K
6
like most people think it is, and I wouldn't even be surprised if in reality in most spots it's K
6
>6
5
.