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Originally Posted by madlex
For example with full ring players, the same style of play might lead to significantly different numbers just because one player is a frequent table starter and the other one isn’t. So the only way to really compare W$WSF is with Zoom game numbers.
Indeed. And in full ring games, there are more multiway pots post-flop, which brings down the WWSF number even more. My WWSF number for full ring tourneys is way down in the 30s, because I tend to play freerolls, where some pots have 5 or 6 players seeing a flop. I'm obviously not going to win 50% of the time if I'm seeing the flop with 5 other players.
There's a HEM stat called WWSF Rating which is useful though, as it shows whether you're winning your "fair share" of pots, after accounting for how many of them are multiway. My number is just below 1.0, whereas aggro players can have a figure as high as 1.10.
EDIT: My positional numbers show that I win least often when I see a flop in the BB, but I don't think it's a major problem, because I get better pot odds there, so don't have to win the majority of the time in the long run, unlike in other positions.
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Originally Posted by Iblis
This stats aren't 6max only, right?
They are from 6-max tables, but at the nosebleed level, games are often 3- or 4-handed, which is why his VPIP/PFR numbers are much higher than he'd have if there were 6 players dealt into every hand.
I'm convinced that if 6 players are dealt in, VPIP should not be higher than 30%, even in a game with negligible rake.
Snowie plays something like 24/17/8 at 6-max 100NL for example, and with microstakes rake the theoretically optimal stats will be tighter still (something like 22/16/7). (
Exploitatively, you might make more money playing tighter or looser, however. There are people beating micros with wildly different strats).
Last edited by ArtyMcFly; 02-25-2019 at 03:46 PM.