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Why you suck at uNL Part Two: Bankroll Management Why you suck at uNL Part Two: Bankroll Management

02-07-2011 , 08:58 AM
Nice bump!

Your bankroll is your bankroll. If you stick to strict management, which it looks like you do, there is no reason to split it up.
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02-07-2011 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by COCKBOAT
Nice bump!

Your bankroll is your bankroll. If you stick to strict management, which it looks like you do, there is no reason to split it up.
Thanks or the quick reply. Surely if I go on a heater in the sng's and a downswing in the cash or something similar I should keep them separate tho? I could potentially move up in the sng's due to those winnings but need to drop down in the cash, is that more advisable than using the sng winnings to keep at my current cash stakes?

FYI I'm not really a beginner but I figured this thread was probs the best place for this question.
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02-07-2011 , 11:18 AM
If you keep the bankroll management rule, u will win poker
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02-07-2011 , 12:36 PM
Is 6max Rush Poker a bad way to grind up?
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02-08-2011 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AliQ90
Thanks or the quick reply. Surely if I go on a heater in the sng's and a downswing in the cash or something similar I should keep them separate tho? I could potentially move up in the sng's due to those winnings but need to drop down in the cash, is that more advisable than using the sng winnings to keep at my current cash stakes?

FYI I'm not really a beginner but I figured this thread was probs the best place for this question.
Bump. I asked this question a little while ago, but didn't really get an answer. Anyone got any advice?
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02-08-2011 , 04:36 PM
Just keep track of what you win at a level with hem/pt3. If you ship $1500 in a tournament.. and you were playing 25nl, but were losing over 8000 hands.. don't move up. If you ship 1500, and were winning at 4bb/100 over 22,000 hands, then go ahead and take a shot at 50nl.
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02-08-2011 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
Just keep track of what you win at a level with hem/pt3. If you ship $1500 in a tournament.. and you were playing 25nl, but were losing over 8000 hands.. don't move up. If you ship 1500, and were winning at 4bb/100 over 22,000 hands, then go ahead and take a shot at 50nl.
So do you mean as separate rolls? But kind of padding my one roll with winnings from another, and if I'm beating the current stakes and using it to move up?

Thanks for your help.
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02-08-2011 , 08:02 PM
dont sit $5 deep at 2NL, playing super deep stacked isnt going to help you improve your game as much as playing 5NL or 10NL even if it will make you more money in the long term. otherwise, good post.
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02-15-2011 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by COCKBOAT
Nice bump!

Your bankroll is your bankroll. If you stick to strict management, which it looks like you do, there is no reason to split it up.
HI Guys,

hope u all are fine.

please lemme know the terminology of poker.i am new to this stuff

waiting for inputs.

thanks
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03-16-2011 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by frumpus
I wish you had posted this before I deposited most of my tiny tiny roll on FTP.
He did post this before I deposited. I just wish I'd read it.
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03-30-2011 , 12:42 PM
So if have 500$ on FTP what limit should i play? NL25? I have a 27% rakeback.
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03-31-2011 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sicksound666
So if have 500$ on FTP what limit should i play? NL25? I have a 27% rakeback.
$500 is a bankroll right in between 10NL and 25NL.

I would start at 10NL, and move up to 25NL when I have $550, move back down to 10NL when I dop below $500.
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03-31-2011 , 12:49 PM
I started out on 1.10 45 man sngs on FTP. Only started w/ 27 bucks lol, but I ran well and now have a strict 200-300 BI rule for mttsngs. I was still grinding the 1.10s w/ 400 lol b/c I didn't have enough for the 3.30 KOs yet.

This was over a year ago (playing PT), and Im now playing 6.50/12 KOs on FTP, using the same super nitty BR mgmt. Less 12s b/c I don't quite have 2600 in my BR yet, but ill get there.

Don't know about cash, but this is how I started playing mttsngs.
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03-19-2012 , 06:58 PM
great thread. New to the forum, and thanks to all the guys/gals posting up all the info.

I know about bankroll, but what is everyone's take on Bankroll for multi table'ing. Either the cash games or Sitngo's?
Should your 40X the buy be mutiplied by the number of tables you want to play?

Thanks.
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03-19-2012 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverstubble
Should your 40X the buy be mutiplied by the number of tables you want to play?
No. Playing more tables averages out your variance. Provided you still have a decent winrate when you multi-table, and you don't get tilted if you suffer multiple bad beats in quick succession, your roll will be safe.
If you are a winning player, multi-tabling just increases the amount of your winnings, as you're playing more total hands. If you are a losing player, you'd obviously go busto more quickly.
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03-19-2012 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtySmokes
No. Playing more tables averages out your variance. Provided you still have a decent winrate when you multi-table, and you don't get tilted if you suffer multiple bad beats in quick succession, your roll will be safe.
If you are a winning player, multi-tabling just increases the amount of your winnings, as you're playing more total hands. If you are a losing player, you'd obviously go busto more quickly.
Thanks for the quick reply. So maybe just keep the buy in rule a little more conservative then. Maybe add another 20 Bi just to keep me from being under rolled?
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03-19-2012 , 10:17 PM
What is the link to part one?
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03-19-2012 , 10:19 PM
The more tables u add the smaller ur edge will be. It's always Better to err on the safe side and have extra buyins until u find ur comfort level
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03-20-2012 , 12:05 AM
great post for new comers. Thank you
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03-20-2012 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverstubble
Thanks for the quick reply. So maybe just keep the buy in rule a little more conservative then. Maybe add another 20 Bi just to keep me from being under rolled?
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Originally Posted by slimshady1999
The more tables u add the smaller ur edge will be. It's always Better to err on the safe side and have extra buyins until u find ur comfort level
Yes, your edge will be smaller so your roll should be higher.

Also, when you multitable some tables will do very well and others not so well. The good tables will accumulate chips and you won't want to leave the table to bank them back into your roll. So although they more than counter the losses on other tables, you need enough bankroll behind to be able to fund the loss making tables (due to variance) and open new tables to replace some loss making tables (due to tough opponents).

To take an extreme example, you cannot play 24 tables with a bankroll of 20 buyins. And even a smaller number of tables will see imbalances happen as your bankroll shifts over to the good tables, which you don't want to leave.

So, as a rule of thumb you should add 1-2 buy-ins per extra table you play. That way you have enough behind to accommodate the swings between tables and keep the most lucrative tables open.
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03-20-2012 , 10:07 AM
Thank you very much, exactly what I was looking for. I knew I wanted to be over rolled, but was looking for a consensus on amount. I am slowly starting to muti, and my short term goal is to get to 6 tables. I have about 3-4 hrs a nite for 3-4 nights a week to play, so will see where that gets me.
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03-20-2012 , 02:52 PM
Your short term goal should be to earn to play poker rather than to learn to multitable.

Getting good fundamentals are much more important when starting out.
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03-21-2012 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
Your short term goal should be to earn to play poker rather than to learn to multitable.

Getting good fundamentals are much more important when starting out.
Thanks for your thoughts. I like to think that my game is pretty solid. I play pretty regular 3-4 nites a week when I can. Keep track of my winnings via spread sheet. Plus I play a lot of live poker. Just looking to see how I fare. Like anything related to poker, I will make the adjustments when needed. I was curious about the multi table roll. But thank god I have this forum for advice and help with my leaks when the time comes.
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04-20-2012 , 06:06 AM
you say for SNG , from 100-500$ i can play 4 180

but with 100$ i have 22 buy ins for 4 180 ( you say minimum 40 )

anyway my question is , i want to be a grinder in 4 180 (for living) ,
how BI must i have to start ? and how tables per session ?
HUD is must or no ? can i mix with some MTTs ?

thanks!
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01-09-2013 , 07:52 AM
I was playing on NL2 at Stars with £30 (around $48) but paired it with FTP to get the ring game ticket. I've since transfered my money to FTP to get the welcome bonus and I'm winning 8BBs/100 after 16K hands. I've also cleared $9.52 of my bonus. The bonus works out at roughly 30% rakeback (I've paid $32.48 in rake). My BR is sat at $91.84 right now.

Should I continue to play at FTP or would I get a better deal at Stars? I also find the field softer but this might just be my imagination.
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