Two Plus Two Poker Forums What is Nash Equilibrium?
 Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read TwoPlusTwo.com

 Notices

 12-04-2017, 01:57 PM #1 xfkabio stranger   Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 6 What is Nash Equilibrium? Is it just for working out the correct play for flops, or is it used for turn and river plays also?
12-04-2017, 02:11 PM   #2
SpewingIsMyMove
veteran

Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,440
Re: What is Nash Equilibrium?

Quote:
 Originally Posted by xfkabio Is it just for working out the correct play for flops, or is it used for turn and river plays also?
A nash equilibrium is when, in a non-cooperative game with rational players aware of each other's strategy, no player can improve their outcomes by changing their strategy alone. It is an application of game theory.

In theory, game theory can be used to derive the optimum strategy in any game context (preflop, postflop, heads up, multiway, etc.) In practice, the more variables (streets of betting remaining, cards remaining to be seen, players still active), the more complex the outcome tree is, and therefore the more difficult it is to apply game theory. Nash Equilibrium are primarily used for preflop push\fold charts.

 12-04-2017, 02:59 PM #3 Kurn, son of Mogh Carpal \'Tunnel   Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rhode Island and Providence Plantat Posts: 14,555 Re: What is Nash Equilibrium? "Nobody goes for the blonde"
 12-04-2017, 03:04 PM #4 ArtyMcFly Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Enchantment Under the Sea Posts: 11,034 Re: What is Nash Equilibrium? It's actually easier to find Nash Equilibrium frequencies on the river (or with a pre-flop shove) than for the early streets. e.g. In a toy game where one player shoves the river with a pot-sized bet, his range should be divided into value bets and bluffs in a ratio of 2:1. The other player should call with his bluff-catchers 50% of the time. Any deviation from that allows adaptive exploits. On the early streets, ranges are so much more complicated, and there are so many variables (all the potential runouts and action sequences, due to stacks still being deep), that even the most powerful computers in the world haven't found the complete solution. To put it another way, you can't find the Nash Equilibrium play for the flop, unless you've already worked out everything that can possibly happen on the turn and river as well.

 Thread Tools Display Modes Linear Mode

 Posting Rules You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Forum Rules
 Forum Jump User Control Panel Private Messages Subscriptions Who's Online Search Forums Forums Home Links to Popular Forums     News, Views, and Gossip     Beginners Questions     Marketplace & Staking     Casino & Cardroom Poker     Internet Poker     NL Strategy Forums     Poker Goals & Challenges     Las Vegas Lifestyle     Sporting Events     Politics     Other Other Topics Two Plus Two     About the Forums     Two Plus Two Magazine Forum     The Two Plus Two Bonus Program     Two Plus Two Pokercast     The Best of Two Plus Two Marketplace & Staking     Commercial Marketplace     General Marketplace     Staking - Offering Stakes     Staking         Staking - Offering Stakes         Staking - Seeking Stakes         Staking - Selling Shares - Online         Staking - Selling Shares - Live         Staking Rails         Transaction Feedback & Disputes     Transaction Feedback & Disputes Coaching & Training     Coaching Advice     Cash Game Poker Coach Listings     Tournament/SNG Poker Coach Listings Poker News & Discussion     News, Views, and Gossip     Poker Goals & Challenges     Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance     That's What She Said!     Poker Legislation & PPA Discussion hosted by Rich Muny     Twitch - Watch and Discuss Live Online Poker     Televised Poker General Poker Strategy     Beginners Questions     Books and Publications     Poker Tells/Behavior, hosted by: Zachary Elwood     Poker Theory     Psychology No Limit Hold'em Strategy     Medium-High Stakes PL/NL     Micro-Small Stakes PL/NL     Medium-High Stakes Full Ring     Micro-Small Stakes Full Ring     Heads Up NL     Live Low-stakes NL Limit Texas Hold'em Strategy     Mid-High Stakes Limit     Micro-Small Stakes Limit Tournament Poker Strategy     STT Strategy     Heads Up SNG and Spin and Gos     Mid-High Stakes MTT     Small Stakes MTT     MTT Community     Tournament Events Other Poker Strategy     High Stakes PL Omaha     Small Stakes PL Omaha     Omaha/8     Stud     Draw and Other Poker Live Poker     Casino & Cardroom Poker         Venues & Communities         Regional Communities     Venues & Communities     Tournament Events         WPT.com     Home Poker     Cash Strategy     Tournament Strategy Internet Poker     Internet Poker         nj.partypoker.com         Global Poker         MPN – Microgaming Poker Network         Big Ugly Poker     Commercial Software     Software         Commercial Software         Free Software General Gambling     Backgammon Forum hosted by Bill Robertie.     Probability     Sports Betting     Other Gambling Games 2+2 Communities     Other Other Topics         OOTV         Game of Thrones     The Lounge: Discussion+Review     EDF     Las Vegas Lifestyle     BBV4Life         omg omg omg     House of Blogs Sports and Games     Sporting Events         Single-Team Season Threads         Fantasy Sports     Fantasy Sports, sponsored by Draftboard.com         Sporting Events     Wrestling     Golf     Chess and Other Board Games     Video Games         League of Legends         Hearthstone     Puzzles and Other Games Other Topics     Politics     History     Business, Finance, and Investing     Science, Math, and Philosophy     Religion, God, and Theology     Travel     Health and Fitness     Laughs or Links!     Computer Technical Help     Programming International Forums     Deutsch         BBV [German]     Français     Two Plus Two en Español

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:42 AM.

 Contact Us - Two Plus Two Publishing LLC - Privacy Statement - Top