Simple question. It's something ive been trying out that I think is profitable but i'm not sure and wanted input.

In this scenario everyone has a standard 100 bb stack or pretty close to it. game is NL

Hero is in small blind
V1 is in cutoff
V2 is in bb

V1 limps from c/o
hero pops 2.5 bb, bb calls c/o calls, pot is ~7.5bb

flop comes 2104

Pot is 3-way, Hero first to act with A8

Hero opens for 10bb in sb.

I understand that a strong re-raise (to about 30bb) might have us chucking it, but is it worth over betting to build the pot with nut potential on the turn and river?

what about if we are in c/o and its checked to us after we popped 2.5bb pre with two callers... it might buy us the river free?

Also, the fold equity of the overbet looking like two pair or stronger

Also it allows weaker flush draws to call thinking they have implied odds and they're gonna bust a big hand if they hit, not knowing they're gonna hang them self

What do you guys think?

Do not be afraid to be brutally honest.

Also, I am fully aware that this is an unorthodox way to play this hand, and not the proper odds, lower variance, abc normal way to play it. I am questioning whether playing it deceptively this way is more profitable than ABC

Your fd has a 30% chance of coming In, right away this dictates several things that need to happen for it to be profitable, either
1. Two other people stack off with you, assuring you a triple up when u do it, giving u direct odds.
-an overbet likely achieves the opposite of this
2. You're giving yourself a good price (and worse flush) good price to draw by betting small
-again, opposite effect
3. Your fold equity is so massive that they're going to fold enough to compensate for the 70% u miss ur draw, In which case, why would you waste the NFd as a bluff? Ud be better off throwing away a worse hand like AX ,not something with good equity.
For these reasons I'd suggest its much better to bet small and then extract maximum value when you do hit

Better check that math again on the %age. It's 36% for a flush draw 2flush

I understand those two points, but this builds the pot guaranteeing when you do hit, they're already through the commitment threshold or will be by the turn/river. It is also hard to extract maximum value if you have made small bets without making a gigantic overbet that is less likely to get called on the river though. Thanks again for the input though I appreciate it.

given that, why dont we just jam all in every time we have a nfd?we achieve both of the things you stated, along with maximum fold equity
the additional 6% equity doesnt change the fact that were still shoveling money in as a dog

complete pre

Because if you jam all in every time, your fold equity is too high for hands that provide major value when you flush over flush, ie. K hi, Qhi, Jhi.

A large but not all in bet provides the equity while not necessarily pushing out the flush over flush hands.

Also, I love war3 roc, but I feel like I should inform you its spelled "Paladin". I played ROC for years and still do, when I was 19, I was the #8 solo player on the entire USEast realm. I play euro now cause its the only realm not dead.

awesome man,. i was #7 solo
i still play 4s rt some and ffa now. u dont do tft?

"Because if you jam all in every time, your fold equity is too high for hands that provide major value when you flush over flush, ie. K hi, Qhi, Jhi."

by overbetting, youve already priced them off their fd's, if theyre dumb enough to call an ob with a fd theyre dumb enough to call a jam. so, again, why not just jam ur fd?