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Originally Posted by SpewingIsMyMove
I don't say this to be critical, as we were all new players once and had to take time to figure things out, but you really should be able to make 90% of your decisions in less than 5 seconds. Again, this is not a criticism, just a target you can aim at.
A few tips
1. You don't need exact equities, you can use the rule of 2 and 4 as a shortcut
2. Memorize equities of common situations.
3. Drill, drill, drill. Remember hands you played, and then calculate the equity (first by hand, and then using an equity calculator like equilab to check your work).
A vast majority of poker is pattern recognition, and the same patterns recur over and over. the more you practice, the faster you will be able to make straightforward decisions very quickly.
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Most decisions don't take more than a second or two to make, if it's moderately difficult then having 10-15 is fine, if it's really close then that's what the timebank is for
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Originally Posted by Didace
20 seconds is a really long time. What is your thought process that is taking so long? Also, you're allowed to think when it isn't your turn.
Thanks all for the replies, seems to be a common answer, which gives me confidence for the future. I am not new to poker, but am new to correct equity calculations etc...
My thought process is... Pre Flop:
a) My stack size (- antes if applicable) / BB. If I'm on short stack and considering the push to all in, compare that number to the Sklansky Chubukov rankings table. If not short stack, and only looking to call/raise, will refer to another table (either Equilab, Malmuth or Nash, haven't worked out my preferred yet) to judge the quality of my opening hand. I haven't memorized these tables yet, so it takes some time referring to them.
b) Check position. If early, will play tight. If late, a bit looser.
*When I get used to doing things more quickly (particularly for tournament play) I will also consider blind stealing here, but not worrying about it yet.
Post Flop:
a) Count Outs
b) Figure Cards Odds. Use the Outs x 2 method for a close approximation.
c) Figure Pot Odds (Pot Size/Call Amount, converted to %).
d) If Pot Odds and Card Odds are very different, I make my decision. If they are very similar, then I do the more exact Card Odds calculation (Unknown Cards/Outs) before making my decision.
*When I can do all of the above quickly (within 20 secs), I then want to practice with a program that compares range equities (such as PokerCruncher, Flopzilla, PokerStove, etc...), so I'm making calls not just based on outs and pod odds, but also a smarter consideration of what my opponent is playing [I used to just do this on instinct, but I'm aware I can improve greatly at it], and what their chances are. Obviously I won't be able to use those programs when playing live, so I imagine that is going to take quite some time learning before I can implement the logic live within 20 secs as well.
Does that sound about the right process to you guys?