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To Shove or not to Shove, that is the question [2NL/6MAX] To Shove or not to Shove, that is the question [2NL/6MAX]

12-20-2017 , 03:37 PM
Hey folks,
i'm currently working on building the ranges which i want to use in 2NL Zoom (6MAX).
(Which i'll discuss when i have them all. So probably like in 3 years with the current pace im getting things done )
Okayy now to my Question,
when i'm Shoving as the first person willingly contributing money which hands should i choose to do that with ?
These are my thoughts:
Zoom is reaally tight so i want to have a really tight shoving Range.
So i came up with 2-3 Ranges:
- AA Less Variance and i have the best possible Equity.
-KK+ I'm maybe going to be dominated by 80% half of the time (Against AA)
and against (KK+,AKs) i have only a small Equity Edge. Which means i'll
have a really bumpy EV ride and it all comes down to how often the
enemy turns up with AA.
-KK+,AKs At the end of the Day what do i Beat here, only Fish and QQ+.

I thought about changing the ranges depending on the number of tables the Players (left to act) are Playing and my Position.
Considering these factors what do you think based on Experience and or an educated guess should my shove range be ?

Last edited by Lockenfeller; 12-20-2017 at 03:46 PM.
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12-20-2017 , 05:18 PM
I don't play 2NL, but my range for open-shoving is pretty simple. I never do it. The risk reward is terrible when shoving a marginal hand, and you lose a lot of value when doing it with a great hand. It is better to figure out which hands to raise with, and then play poker after that.
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12-20-2017 , 06:19 PM
Shoving with a >40bb stack is a bad idea. <20bb...yeah, construct a range. In between you are on your own.
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12-21-2017 , 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lockenfeller
when i'm Shoving as the first person willingly contributing money which hands should i choose to do that with ?
Unless you have less than 15bb, there is no hand that should be an open shove.
When you're first into a pot in a deep-stacked cash game, you'll generally use a standard open size of 2.5 to 3bb. With 100bb stacks, you actually have room for there to be 7 or 8 raises before someone is all in, but many people will jam as a 4-bet or 5-bet. If someone jams as a 3-bet or as an open, I mark them as a fish, because it's rarely the best play. (If you have a strong hand, you want your opponents to put money in the pot, and then you should re-raise them to a size that causes them to often call or shove with a worse hand. If you open jam, they can easily fold, as the pot lays such terrible calling odds).
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