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Old 08-03-2017, 06:20 AM   #1
DonCheckRaiso
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Semi bluff Pot with Bottom-End draw

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 254.5 BB (VPIP: 18.97, PFR: 14.66, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 121)
SB: 121 BB (VPIP: 21.30, PFR: 14.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.88, Hands: 234)
Hero (BB): 122 BB
UTG: 116 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 15.28, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 75)
MP: 215 BB (VPIP: 25.08, PFR: 17.55, 3Bet Preflop: 8.64, Hands: 649)
CO: 476.5 BB (VPIP: 11.84, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 158)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 T 8
SB bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, SB calls 10 BB

Turn: (34 BB, 2 players) J
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (34 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

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guess I could went for a 3bet on the flop.
now I feel like i should have bet the turn big, was worried he would call anyway or might even have me beat.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:32 AM   #2
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Re: Semi bluff Pot with Bottom-End draw

You raised the flop with a straight draw, and then checked when you hit the straight. Does that seem logical? You generally do better by bloating the pot when you're likely to have the best hand, or very unlikely to have the best hand. 77 on the flop is sometimes winning, but would hate to get 3-bet, so I wouldn't raise it. You've got many more obvious raises in your range (straights, sets, 2prs, nut draws like KJ). A straight on the turn often is the best hand in this spot, so it should be bet.

I would just call on the flop, but if you raise it you should probably barrel the turn (bet-fold it) fairly small to get value from Tx, two pairs (e.g. JT) or sets. Villain often has a pair+draw of some sort, so you shouldn't let him realize his equity for free. You can always check back bad rivers. As played, fold the river, as you're chopping at best, and villain having a king in his range is quite possible (e.g. KT/KJ).

FWIW, looking at the results, I hate villain's flop bet and his call of your raise.

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Old 08-03-2017, 11:06 AM   #3
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Re: Semi bluff Pot with Bottom-End draw

Yeah I hesitated on the turn.
Didn't want to blow up the pot and was afraid to push out the opponent.

I kind of put him on a pair, because I thought better hands ,except of the nuts like QJ, he would be pushing.
And I was thinking if I bet here any pair is going to fold that might call or make a bet on the river.

And on the other side if I am getting raised or called I am going to have a hard decision and might have to lay down the hand.

So I picked baiting and pot-controll there.
I was not sure if the hand was strong enough to bet the turn and get called by worse.
So I guess I should bet the next time.
What size would you pick like 22-25 BB ?
On that river check behind or bet/fold ?
I would do check behind because I feel I would have to risk to many chips.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:43 PM   #4
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Re: Semi bluff Pot with Bottom-End draw

I would bet very small on the turn (like a third of the pot) and fold to a raise, then check back that river. If you bet very small on the turn, villain is highly unlikely to bluff-raise, almost always check-raise better straights than yours, but he will call with many worse hands.
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