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12-06-2018 , 01:25 PM
Hello

I have Spin&Go hand like that.

BU: 500 (25 bb)
SB (Hero): 500 (25 bb)
BB: 500 (25 bb)

Pre-Flop: (30) Hero is SB with 4 K
1 fold, Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80) 8 9 K (2 players)
Hero bets 55, BB raises to 245, Hero raises to 460 (all-in), BB calls 215 (all-in)

My Question is: What amount of Equity Do I need to Raise be profitable ?

I Assume I Have 0 Fold Equity, opponent always Call my cb/Raise AI.

Answer is 405/1000 = 40,5% ? Or I missed something ?
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12-06-2018 , 01:45 PM
If you assume you are always getting called, then yes, with your final bet you are putting 405 chips into a pot that will be 1000 chips, so you need to win it 40.5% of the time.
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12-07-2018 , 12:31 AM
You need over 50% equity to value bet. That's a universal rule.

The size of the pot is irrelevant to calculating EV for a bet.

If you bet $100 with 40.5% equity you'll get $81 back for your $100 and consequently lose $19 for every $100 you bet.
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12-07-2018 , 03:04 AM
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My Question is: What amount of Equity Do I need to Raise be profitable ?

I Assume I Have 0 Fold Equity, opponent always Call my cb/Raise AI.

The pot is 190. It is 405 to stack off. So you are getting a little worse than 1.5:1 to stack off and require a little better than 40% equity.
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12-07-2018 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by au4all
You need over 50% equity to value bet. That's a universal rule.

The size of the pot is irrelevant to calculating EV for a bet.

If you bet $100 with 40.5% equity you'll get $81 back for your $100 and consequently lose $19 for every $100 you bet.
This is correct. While 40.5% equity would give you breakeven to make that raise, any raise made where you win less than a dollar for every dollar risked is a mistake.

So, yes, .405% equity is the minimum equity required for a shove to be EV neutral, but it is not sufficient equity to make a shove the optimal play.
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12-08-2018 , 10:03 AM
Thank you for answers.

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Originally Posted by au4all
You need over 50% equity to value bet. That's a universal rule.
Maybe its silly Question.
For Valuebet I need 50%+ of equity vs Villain range, its clear for me. But should I consider in Villain range: together hands which Villain plays by x/c and x/r ? For example in Flopzilla analyzes.
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