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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
your post indicates that you're currently thinking at a fairly basic level. Breaking even at 10NL sounds about right. Post some hands and your thought processes on them and we can discuss
which part is basic exactly? I think the "mental leak" awareness might help. There is obviously something I'm missing.
There are two players that play for $10 on Ignition: those that plays cards-up (and therefore those that I win money from) and those that don't care that it is $10, and you'll think your top two pair is good and they come out of nowhere with 3 of a kind with their VPIP of 47 to take a quarter of your stack because you think you are value betting someone that calls you down no matter what (hence where I lose the money aforementioned).
I've reviewed all of my biggest losing hands and saw it was 90% with JJ,QQ,KK,AA, AKs,AQs, all waiting patiently to get such hands against these don't-care-I'll-just-call players with enormous VPIPs. No straight draw chases, no flush chases, etc. against these players -- I learned to stop doing that dance with them after too many bites to my stack... Equity calculators put me at between 80 - 94% on the flop or turn. They either get their 3 of a kind or the straight or flush they were chasing despite my 2:1 odds I'm giving them to call on each street...
The other alternative I guess would be playing more hands against them since, I guess, perhaps they are assuming I'm only going to be playing "great" hands against them, so they know if there isn't an A,Q,K,J or something that threatens with a pocket pair, they have a good chance at winning the pot?
Do people just fold against these types of whales unless they have 3 of a kind or better? That only happens at such rare frequencies it seems you would just always lose to these types of players. Might as well just fit-or-fold on the flop I guess. That is what I've started to do the last 2k hands honestly because I'm conditioned to just fold if I don't have an enormous hand on the flop against such players.
I can go through and post my hands but I basically just described every single one of them to you already. the other half are hands I win cause someone finally folded, or it was a against check-fold-to-your-cbet-cause-i-didn't-connect-with-flop players. Sprinkle in some all-ins with AA or KK that happen pre-flop too.
TL;DR: The main question I have is... if you can't bluff because people will almost always call you down, but you don't get good hands enough of the time (I get maybe 26% of my opening range at any position in a 200 hands on one table, on a good day) because such hands are rare, what are you supposed to do at these levels? It seems like an infinite loop of futility
Last edited by grachi; 09-22-2020 at 01:23 AM.